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When I wrote 'Blood Red Rose of Montana"

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georgek
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0 posted 08-10-2009 11:16 PM       View Profile for georgek   Email georgek   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for georgek

Here, I feel that a young man going into battle, loved his land so dearly.

He knew he had to fight and would die.
As he lay dying, he held onto the beauty of the land that he loved so much.

He then slowly died, as the rose petals blew away.
Just like man who dies slowly, there is no such thing as a 'chopping knife' of death.

That no matter how much we hold onto the pasions of love. (the rose being symbolic of love), it retuns to it's giver as the spirit returns to God.

I feel so many lives were lost here, and such beatiful roses grow in Montana. So beautiful in fact, that he did not want to let go.

To him...this was his love.

Also Montana was so sought after that many had died and killed.

So much was lost in Montania, as the gods mourn tears for the sadness that still envelopes this tragic land.

As for Montana....I did not even know it exist, but I did wonder why I picked it out, and can see that a battle may have been faught. Can anyone tell me if Montana is famous for roses?

I do not even know where it is...but I will serach now. I try not to find information out before hand, as this affects my reading.

George
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1 posted 08-11-2009 08:22 PM       View Profile for crosscountry83   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for crosscountry83

I don't know anything about what you are describing, but I, too, will research. If you don't know about Montana, where do you live?

Rileigh
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2 posted 08-11-2009 10:36 PM       View Profile for georgek   Email georgek   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for georgek

Hello Rileigh,

I live in Nottingham in the United Kingdom.

Nottingham is famous for the Robin Hood legend.

As for Montana, people will say that it must be buried in my subconscious from a book I may have read. Truth is, that I have never heard off it.

As for Red Rock Creek, I have heard of a few 'Creeks' watching cowboy films, but connecting the two is uncanny.

I have since looked at pictures, and they are not exactly what I can see.

I see the rocks like mustard brown sandstone, very powdery. With channels cut by the wind. If you rubbed your fingers, you would have powdered brown sand dust on your hand.

I had a complete mental block two days ago, but last night a theme from my radio seemed to get pictures and words flowing.

There was a Country and Western on Gold AM called "Oh Suzana"(or sounded like it) as this started words flowing.

Is Alabama anywhere near Montana?

George

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3 posted 08-11-2009 10:49 PM       View Profile for georgek   Email georgek   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for georgek

No...it seems, according to my map that Alabama is situated in the Deep South.

Strange...so why did  Alabama trigger Montana???

That "Oh suzana" made me think that Alabama was near to Montana????

Hmmm...

George

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Maybe it means something that they all rhyme? suzana, alabama, montana?  All connected somehow I bet, but who am I to guess.

Rileigh
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Strange...so why did Alabama trigger Montana???

I doubt it much matters, George.

In my experience, psychics rarely remember the 99 times they were completely wrong. They only remember the one time they got something right. Toss enough darts into the air and even a blind man will occasionally hit the board. Those kinds of miracles happen every day.


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In my experience, psychics rarely remember the 99 times they were completely wrong.


When you say, "in my experience,"  it seems you are only thinking of what you have seen.  As much as we want to, I don't think we could ever have the experiences of anyone who ever lived.  Wew just have to accept that there is a possibility.  

Rileigh
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7 posted 08-12-2009 02:17 PM       View Profile for georgek   Email georgek   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for georgek

Hello Rileigh,

I am not often wrong, perhaps only the 1%
Hmm...I wonder why Alabama?

George
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Does a river have something to do with it? (random guess that popped into my head)

Rileigh
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Hello Ron,
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/george.kk/dowse/Alanama.JPG

It's a good job you are not a gambling man, because I have three aces.

I was correct...Alabama is next door to Montana...

It is just the WRONG Alabama, but the song, triggered Alabama, and from Alabama..words flowed to Montana...

Phew..and I thought I was wrong?

I am afraid this is what I was saying to our good friend (who I have forgotten more than I have forgiven...lol)

We get feelings and words, but we cannot always make the connection.
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Hey I looked at it bigger on Google earth, and there is a river between them, but rivers are VERY common lol.

Rileigh
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11 posted 08-12-2009 02:53 PM       View Profile for georgek   Email georgek   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for georgek

Does a river have something to do with it? (random guess that popped into my head)

Rileigh

Hi Rileigh,

I did look at pictures of Montana last night and have noticed a large river.

The thing what suprised me, was the song "Oh Sussana"

So I looked up the lyrics to find:-.....
I come from Alabama with my banjo on my knee;
I'm goin' to Lou'siana my true love for to see.
It rained all night the day I left,
the weather it was dry;
The sun so hot I froze to death,
Susanna don't you cry.

Oh! Susanna, don't you cry for me;
I come from Alabama,
with my banjo on my knee.

I had a dream the other night,
When everything was still;
I thought I saw Susanna dear,
A-coming down the hill.
The buckwheat cake was in her mouth,
The tear was in her eye,
Said I, I'm coming from the south,
Susanna don't you cry.

Oh! Susanna, don't you cry for me;
I come from Alabama,
with my banjo on my knee.

I soon will be in New Orleans,
And then I'll look all 'round,
And when I find Susanna,
I'll fall upon the ground.
But if I do not find her,
This darkey'll surely die,
And when I'm dead and buried,
Susanna don't you cry.

Oh! Susanna, don't you cry for me;
I come from Alabama,
with my banjo on my knee.


Now take a look at this one, which is the 'nonsense' version, well hidden and only shown on 'Wikipedia'
The traditional lyrics are, more or less,

I come from Alabama with a banjo on my knee,
I'm going to Louisiana, my true love for to see
It rained all night the day I left, the weather it was dry
The sun so hot I froze to death; Susanna, don't you cry.
Oh, Susanna, don't you cry for me
I come from Alabama,
With my banjo on my knee.
I had a dream the other night when everything was still,

I thought I saw Susanna coming up the hill,
The red, red rose was in her hand, the tear was in her eye,


I said I'm coming from Dixieland, Susanna don't you cry.

I soon will be in New Orleans and then I'll look around
And when I find my gal Susanne, I'll fall upon the ground
But if I do not find you there, then I will surely die
And when I'm dead and buried, Susanna don't you cry.
Notice anything different?

Yer...RED ROSE IN HER HAND.

So who told me that...take a look at the poem?

George
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So a river does have something to do with it?

And what is the significance of the song?

I've heard that song before...

Who told you to look at the poem?

Rileigh
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Hi Rileigh,

Rivers are often where battles are fought.

The river is sometimes the boundry.
I have indeed geard 'Oh Sussana' many times, but I swear to you...that I have never ever heard anything about a girl with a red rose n her hand.

I was just driving in my car and this cowboy tune or similar started playing on Gold AM.

Then words started to flow, so I told the girlfriend to start writing.

She could not follow the speed that I was dictating, so I pulled up at the lights and started writing on the pad.

Only to decode the words into ..hmmm proper English back home.

Yer...okay, this is not proof, but it is blooming unusual. Of course there are many explanations.


Regards George
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Blooming unusual? huh... I'm not British, it sounds like you are though.  I don't quite know what that means...

I also swear to YOU that I thought about a river before I looked at the map.

Rileigh
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Take a look at this LIVE on forum. Sorry about the encryption as you will need to decifer. I cannot use the fonts and tools correctly...here (time)

This guy..Ma*** is an atheist, but I got him thinking. The two guys are close frinds.

Okay, I did not get his Grandfather, but wow,,,the TOWN!!!
"I also truly do wish you a Great Moment George ,as I know you do not have many points of joy in it".
On the contrary.!
"This is true my heart does not speak,the BEING which I am speaks.My heart pumps blood through the mortal veins of my physical body"
It is not the warriors hand that wipes their eyes....or the beggars heart that opens them, Sw*****.
"Tell me the name of my Knighted Great Grand father if you can. Or even what he was know to be great for in his life"
I am not here to be tested Sw****
The name "Rymour"...."Remour" "Rimire" has a connection with you.
Pronounced "Wree....mier" Search deep and you will find it.

"I think it was a minor confusion in your dream. As we both, me and Sw****, can be God occasionally, you just had a dream devoted to myself but thought it was about Sw*****. And I live in the suburb called Remuera, which in Nottingham prononciation would probably be something like Wree-Moore. Never mind, it was still pretty close!"
(qoute Ma........)
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16 posted 08-12-2009 03:25 PM       View Profile for crosscountry83   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for crosscountry83

Please explain, I'm very lost. and don't forget about your other thread on here...

Rileigh
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When you say, "in my experience," it seems you are only thinking of what you have seen. As much as we want to, I don't think we could ever have the experiences of anyone who ever lived. Wew just have to accept that there is a possibility.

Rileigh, all of the oxygen molecules in the room where you're currently sitting are in constant motion, bouncing off each other and all the other molecules in the room. There is a statistical possibility that all of those oxygen molecules could simultaneously bounce their way into a far corner, leaving absolutely none for you to breath. You would very quickly suffocate, with no idea of why or how.

I wouldn't worry about it too much, though. We run our lives not on possibilities, but rather on probabilities. Anything is possible, but it is much more probable that you will continue to breath just fine. It's also much more probable that George is trying to pull our leg.

A true psychic would have no use at all for the Internet. They would also never make a spelling error.

quote:
I was correct...Alabama is next door to Montana...
It is just the WRONG Alabama ...


LOL, you missed the best parts, George. It seems that not only is there an association between Alabama (when it's not spelled Alanama) and Montana, there's also a H'tel St-George in Montana (albeit Switzerland), and even a Nottingham in Loma, MT.



Indeed, George, there is an association between everything so long as you get to make up your own rules as you go. If you really want to prove you're a psychic, it shouldn't be too hard, though.

Just post tomorrow's winning lottery numbers for everyone.
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I can see your point, for sure.  After looking at the previous posts, I can also see that there are quite a few speeling errors.  But that's ok, he's only human right? :P

It's probably not possible to be phychic so we'll never know.

gracias for the valuable input.

Rileigh
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19 posted 08-13-2009 12:36 AM       View Profile for georgek   Email georgek   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for georgek

Hello Ron,

I do not want to prove that I am psychic, only to explain to people that we are all psychic..even you (I think)

This should not be hard to understand, because we are all from God. This is why we return to our maker.

All I am saying, is:- "Don't take my word for it" but look within your souls.

Believe me, it does not matter how many times people will challenge and ask you to prove things, they never accept the world of the paranormal.

I do not have the slightest intention of proving anything to anyone, as I already have death threats from proving folks wrong.

That I am even told that I should be reported to the FBI and be held responsible for certain things.

The answers do not come from me, but within yourself. It is inwards that your quest lies.

Heck..I lose so much 'ground' whenever I take up a challenge, and there has been enough harm done.

No Ron, I have come to write poetry because poetry is the soul and the dephs of our visions. I don't need to preach, we just blame it on the poetry...so it becaomees tolerable.

Heck, I am no fool to realise that my popularity is down because there are those who base their opinions on me, instead of my work. This is not what true poetry is all about.

The reason why you are listening to my dribble, is beacuse I do not understand what I write.

To you it may be coincidence, but I do not accept coincidence..as in poetry, there is NO coincidence.

It is no coincidence that the wind blows and the tree shakes, just like a mushroom should sprout at the trunk of a tree.

I may ask you to prove that you are not psychic?

So I lose Ron, because you have got numbers and respecatability on your side...that is all.

I don't believe in respectability...as I say what I think. There is no brain churning decisiveness what comes out raw from my mind

I hurt, I scream, I am happy and I laugh. There is no hate, no greed or power over others. I am a fee spirit with a mind that thinks.

Yer, I could probably see you, if I placed my hand on my monitor screen above your post.
Then I would have the same scenario of one task after the other until you lost.

Then you would probably get bitter, just like SW*****.

(I believe he left me with a curse...ending with  my little ferret...lol)

Oh...and I have had witchcraft, reiki, prayers and the number of the lunatic asylum .
So you see Ron, I do understand. Do I care?

No...because I look at my hands and I see my soul...I can place my hand on a wall and feel two hundred years flow through my veins.

Or place my fingers on a picture and see a film begin to play.

Yet no matter how many times we watch and play the film....it is nothing but a film.

To some...a vision, but to others....maybe a comedy or a thriller?

Yet the fim keeps playing, and the actors keep coming...and then it is time to turn off the lights. To close the doors, as their work is finished.

We paid our ticket, watched the film...but it never dies, beacuse one day in a life, maybe 2000 years from now, you will not remember me, but the film will come back, because TRUTH never dies...we take it with us. It is only the dross we leave behind.

This is how we learn Ron. The reason why I have learned and want to keep on learning, so I ask daft questions...on a poetry forum..lol

Regards George

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Maybe this is just me, but I thought debates went in the alley.  Of course, you can't have a one sided debate... I'm new here though, so I don't really know.

Rileigh
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This should not be hard to understand, because we are all from God.

Of which God do you speak, George? In the Christian world, of course, there's a name for what you describe, and that word isn't psychic. The prophets of the Christian god, unlike today's psychic charlatans, don't make mistakes. Ever. If they are wrong even once, they are called false prophets and come not from God.

God apparently doesn't need your one percent wiggle room, George.

quote:
I do not have the slightest intention of proving anything to anyone ...

Of course you don't, George. Psychics never do. It is enough for them to make their pompous claims, sans evidence or support, knowing that if even one person out of a thousand naively believes them they will be farther ahead than if they had made no claims.

A true psychic, on the other hand, would remain quiet. They would have no need to claim insights they don't possess. They would let their life and their accomplishments speak for them, shunning self-promotion. A true psychic, George, would know they wouldn't be permitted to bamboozle young people without constraint.

quote:
Maybe this is just me, but I thought debates went in the alley.

You're not wrong, Rileigh.

People, however, are still responsible for their words, not just in The Alley, not just in these forums, but throughout their entire lives. Frivolous claims should be subject to challenge wherever they are made.

It is through challenge, after all, that the truth can be found.


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That make sense... but my head is spinning going to and from the both of you...  

Rileigh
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Hello Ron,

1) The God I talk about, is the extreme god of the universe-the creator of all. Most psychics believe in a Trinity , being soul body and spirit.We belive that we contain part of the devine creator, as your book states that "ye are all gods..children of the most high" We all sin, as it is natural...otherwise we would die.  Christianity  knows this, and says that because of man's downfall (relating as far back as Adam (the tribe of Edom), that we cannot rid the body of sin. Anyway....let us not bring religion into it? The 'psych' comes from God.

2) Most people do not accept the psych as part of the human soul. The rule of the universe cannot allow people to believe against what they want to believe. So, the psych is stifled and shrinks, because of our lack of faith.

It is NOT the gods/god that makes the mistakes, but our own selves. Even I make mistakes (well so they say..lol) You see Ron, I even have a lack of faith which impairs my perception. When people say that God is ignoring us, it is NOT God who is ignoring, but ourselves who are not listening. He speaks through our souls. The very thought of having the slightest doubt in our ability will impair it. We are the fauly species, and our information can be incorrect.
_____________________________________________
God apparently doesn't need your one percent wiggle room, George.
_____________________________________________

So you know God also?

_____________________________________________
Of course you don't, George. Psychics never do. It is enough for them to make their pompous claims, sans evidence or support, knowing that if even one person out of a thousand naively believes them they will be farther ahead than if they had made no claims
_____________________________________________

I am all over the Internet Ron.

You are an evil person Sw****, and your fate is sealed by your mouth. Pray that God, turns his head by the bitterness of your tongue. As all shall see your falsehood and evil. I have spoken good words with love and compassion....as it is not by my hand that these things occur, but by the poison of your own. If Black Magic, not be your need....then puffs of smoke comes out your mouth, because I am a man of God. Be warned that it is good things that you pray for Sw*****.......as love and compassion is needed the most. Especially with M****. Yet if you speak of evil from your troubled soul, as I am not like you......that I pity your words that your tongue be severed, like the heads that you chop. Woe, behold the power that you play...that it does not turn on your sourness back. to you.... As out of your own tongue comes poison, that meets no target. May God be merciful on your soul and spare your tongue, despite not sparing their heads on the battlefield. For greater wrath, have I not seen than a man demented like you.

GEORGIE,
NOW YOU HAVE BECOME A COMPLETE A** !! THIS STORM IS A NOREASTER ( IT HEADS NORTH EAST) THE TEMPS. IN MAINE ARE ALREADY IN THE 30* F RANGE AT NIGHT SO I DON'T THINK YOU SEE THAT CYCLONE YOUR FLAPPING YOUR LIPS ABOUT. ALSO WHERE MAINE IS THE POSSIBILITY OF A CYCLONE ARE SLIM TO NONE. ALSO DUE TO THE WATER TEMPS. IN THE AREA OF MAINE THEY RARELY GET HURRICANES OR CYCLONES. WHERE I LIVE IN NY IS ABOUT 50 MILES OUT IN THE OCEAN OFF THE CONTINENTAL COAST OF THE USA. HERE WE GET STORMS YEAR ROUND THAT ARE AS LARGE AS A HURRICANE YET THEY DON'T HAVE QUITE THE SAME PROPERTIES TO THEM. IF YOU LOOK AT THE PATH OF KYLE IT IS NOT EVEN GOING TO HIT THE USA EVEN IF IT REACHES HURRICANE FORCE. I HAVE BEEN ON THIS ISLAND THROUGH MANY HURRICANES ,THIS IS JUST ANOTHER STORM AND WILL DIE OUT OFF THE COAST OF NOVA SCOTIA. GEORGIE EAT SOME RED MEAT FOR YOUR OWN GOOD YOUR LOSING STRENGTH RAPIDLY.
AGAIN YOU LOSE
SW*****
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/george.kk/spooky/track1.jpg

"Rare Hurricane Spins Past Maine and Hits Canada"

George to Ron...

Two days later Hurricane Kyle struck Maine in New York.

Kyle Becomes Atlantic Hurricane; May Hit MaineMIAMI (AP)   Click to enlarge1 of 1
Tropical Storm Kyle (bottom right) is located south-southwest off coast of Bermuda on Sept. 26, 2008, at 13:45 (UTC) in this NOAA satellite image.
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George

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This is too funny, I just have to stick my oar in.  The full saga here.  


http://www.worldofghosts.co.uk/post-16143.html&sid=4e4c3f850d4d75d19ca61d22ddab0183


Really Rileigh, you would do better to go and write some poetry Take care.

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