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25 posted 08-12-2009 05:17 PM       View Profile for Balladeer   Email Balladeer   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Balladeer's Home Page   View IP for Balladeer

Rileigh, my great-grandfather knew the exact date, hour and minute of his death.

The judge told him
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26 posted 08-12-2009 05:37 PM       View Profile for crosscountry83   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for crosscountry83

Wait, what?  What's that supposed to mean?

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27 posted 08-12-2009 09:31 PM       View Profile for crosscountry83   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for crosscountry83

this is really baffling me, perhaps I'm missing something important...

Rileigh

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28 posted 08-12-2009 11:43 PM       View Profile for georgek   Email georgek   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for georgek

Hi Rileigh,

Sorry to have missed some of your questions, I had been 'skimming' through quickly.

Let me know if you come across any hard maths homework.

Going back to 'distant thoughts'...

Let me explain better.

We have our environment called the HERE/NOW.

This is our solidity of the material world.

When we have distant thoughts we ..let's say move in the Astral towards imagination. Most of the time we keep our conscious in the HERE/NOW and can relay experiences back to our brain or physical.

As we go deeper into the astral, the visions get stronger and we begin to let go of the HERE/NOW. So we get inacurate.

Go deeper and the normal person will go into the SLEEP/DAYDREAM state. Yet the trained acultist can go into a transcend altered state of trance.

The art is to remember and take back into our real HERE/NOW world the visions that we have seen.

This is how poetry works. On the surface many here, may just touch on the outskirts.

I go deep, and perhaps go back into previous experiences where I had died.  I do not have to know how to write, I had already been taught hundreds of years ago.

Ah they say...you can play the harp...it's a gift!!

Yer...you know why?

Because you bring it with you. You never die, rot or go to Hell. Hell is a place in Jerusalem where the sulpher pits are. The 'eye' of the needle' is actually what they called the main gate of Jerusalem. Just like 'The Golden Bowl' being the human aura.

There is no death, no matter how bad you are.
If we can love our enemies, it is hard to understand how a god can destroy us for believing one thing instead of another. We live, as you will because you are eternal. Likewise  your knowledge is also eternal.

Of course your god answers you...like he answers me, in poetry and wisdom. No one taught you to think, like no one can teach you to love. You either do or you don't.

Take it from one who has seen the other side, and is here.

Anyway..others may be listening, so I say no more.

Regards George

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29 posted 08-12-2009 11:49 PM       View Profile for georgek   Email georgek   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for georgek

...did his heart stop beating at one time? ... this is really baffling me, perhaps I'm missing something important...

I think what he is saying is that the judge sent him to his execution and told him when he was going to be executed.

(somehow I don't think he came back...hope he took his traveller cheques with him)
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30 posted 08-13-2009 12:22 AM       View Profile for crosscountry83   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for crosscountry83

Aww that's sad, I should've thought of that.  You know, you kind of have a way of making me feel under educated on this thread.  I'm not sure I can accept all of it anyway...

Rileigh

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31 posted 08-13-2009 12:48 AM       View Profile for georgek   Email georgek   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for georgek

Hello Rileigh,

Don't put yourself down like this!
(let someone else do it)

Naw....I am only kidding!

Cor blimey...when I was your age, I was known as 'The Village Idiot'

Hmm...that guy is 'sharp'. It's only cos I know him. Anyway...he is a lot older than we are...so he is bound to be a bit more 'street wise'.

George
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33 posted 08-13-2009 02:40 PM       View Profile for georgek   Email georgek   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for georgek

Hello Rileigh,

Make sure that if you play poker with him, you bring your barrel and a new set of cards. (Preferably, after you have paid your rent.)

George
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34 posted 08-13-2009 05:10 PM       View Profile for crosscountry83   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for crosscountry83

George, guess what number I'm going to write, then we'll see if its right or not.

Rileigh

(I have the number written down at home, I promise :P)
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35 posted 08-13-2009 06:32 PM       View Profile for georgek   Email georgek   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for georgek

Hi Rileigh,

I am sorry I must not do this. It would be some kind of party trick.

If I am right, it would be classed as a fluke. Then there would be more tests.
If I get it wrong..'Game set and match"

George


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36 posted 08-13-2009 07:06 PM       View Profile for crosscountry83   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for crosscountry83

No one will hold you to anything... its just a guess for fun.  My friends and I do it all the time, and I'm usually a good guesser! (muahaha)  You can even make up your own rules if you want! (lol) but it's your choice.

Rileigh

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37 posted 08-13-2009 11:35 PM       View Profile for georgek   Email georgek   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for georgek

Hello Rileigh,

I do take my work seriously, I am afraid to say. This is one thing that perhaps you will learn.

It is no joke or thrill seeking. You are young and your mind is 'open'

You have neither condemned or agree with me, which is good. I see you as a young innocent learning to walk.

This is one of the things that I had asked my suitor.

I was 15 at the time, and  four of us lads, had seen much.

Frank was the Medium, and I asked:-"Why us?..we are young, when there are so many inteligent older people with top jobs?"


The answer was so good, that I had never forgotten. "You are young, and your minds have not yet been filled...so we can teach you"

So...you grow older and wiser, and you ask questions like:- "What are the blue lights that flicker in the sky, and my space friends" and they would say: "You must never talk about such things....you imagined it"

So you look at your hands, see your eyes and look at the photographs they send you, and I have to pretend that there is nothing there, because those who have not seen, say that they know better"

There were always many things that I could not understand, and people kept telling me, that I psychic...and I just laughed.

Four years ago, a blue light hovered above me in bed, as night after night, I rejected it. Until one night it 'took me' as a brilliant blue ink poured over me. I thought I was going to die, as it swirled around me.

It touched my skin which made it  turn peppermint at the edge. Then it spoke in my head. Perhaps two thousand words in three seconds.

"Ask no more about the flicks....for now you shall see" It showed me how it was created...that there was no death, as it pointed to a stalagmite.

"see how it is formed...perfect, from thousands of years of rain water...there is no such thing as failure. It just means that you are not ready. I saw dead people, perhaps three thousand souls who all knew me. Each had made it home, as there was only one way to God. Back to the creator, through learning and more learning like the brook having found the sea. Yet each soul kept it's own identity...strange!

Here was perfect peace,like a stroll on a warm Sunday morning with church bells ringing. I had never known such peace. Then each spirit spiralled around me and flew out of the window. Rich people, poor people, priests and ragged people, until the last one bid me goodbye.

I was shown the Temple of Candles. There inside this large temple, were thousands of candles. Bright candles, stubby candles and some nearly spent flickering candles.

The voice said:

"Here lie a candle for each soul on the earth. The candle is a measure for the time left for each soul. To remind us when they shall be back."

Entities would enter this place and pary strength to those who would return. Great souls and prophets, often crucified for their belief. Good people, who suffered for the sake of rightiousness.

So you see Rileigh...it is no good to play with God's gift.

Regards George
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38 posted 08-14-2009 12:00 AM       View Profile for crosscountry83   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for crosscountry83

You were right when you said: "You have neither condemned or agree with me"  I have been that way my whole life I'm pretty sure I will continue being like that for the rest of my life.

Rileigh
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39 posted 08-14-2009 01:03 AM       View Profile for georgek   Email georgek   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for georgek

Just make sure you don't fall of the fence where they have a dog.

George
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quote:
I am sorry I must not do this. It would be some kind of party trick.

If I am right, it would be classed as a fluke. Then there would be more tests.

If I get it wrong..'Game set and match"

But you said you hardly ever get anything wrong, George? Why would you be frightened of more tests?

You are, however, half right. It is not just getting it wrong that is "game, set, and match," George, but rather any failure to get it right that proves you are a charlatan. You have, as expected, failed to get it right. A true psychic would have no need to refuse to answer direct questions. A true psychic would get it right.


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I have to say I agree with Ron.  I also have very good balance, so I rarely fall.  And I like dogs btw.

Rileigh
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Then I have to go back to your original question Ron.

You asked why God should bother with me, and that he does not need me.

You have found failure within failure because you cannot see success.

Whereby I see hope in everything, including you.

I see light within darkness, because I search for the light, but you say that there IS no light, as you know the answers based on knowing what God seeks.

To say:- "I know without seeing, is to say that I hear without listening"

This is why YOU are not listening.

You say this cannot be, because your senses tell you.

So...you see Ron, I would be doing no more than preach to you, for you have made up your mind.

Do I care?

No.

George
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43 posted 08-14-2009 03:45 PM       View Profile for georgek   Email georgek   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for georgek

I could not help noticing, that the board requests to respect the belief of others.

It also says:- "Intolerance will not be tolearated" but it seems that I can be told that I am a 'charlaton' by the administrator.

Perhaps it would be better expressed that  exception occurs with administartor?

Am I offended?

Not really, but there must be people who think what I am thinking and dare so nothing.

Only those who will stick up to law and order on forums.

Pity us natives cannot say what we think...lol

George
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quote:
It also says:- "Intolerance will not be tolearated" but it seems that I can be told that I am a 'charlaton' by the administrator.


Ron didn't call you a charlatan George - he simply pointed out the criteria required to be one.

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You asked why God should bother with me, and that he does not need me.

I neither asked nor said any such thing, George. Not even close.

Nonetheless, you have what I would call a legitimate complaint. We do, indeed, try to respect the beliefs of and choices made by others. If I thought for a moment that you had actually convinced yourself you could accurately and without fail predict world catastrophes (but not Rileigh's numbers), I would feel we had failed you. However, it is not just your claims that are suspect, George, but your sincerity.

We strive to tolerate much, but we will never tolerate dishonesty, especially when you attempt to perpetrate it against young minds far more willing to grant you credibility than would an old cynic like me. Respect and tolerance doesn't mean you get to lie with impunity. You will be called on it.


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quote:
you have what I would call a legitimate complaint.


I think George may have another.

You locked his Duke of Chester post in feelings and suggested that feedback would be better placed on the poem itself. No problem with that. However, when you go to the poem in Open it's also locked, with a message suggesting it was second instance of the post in Feelings.

A heck of a catch 22.

I'm sure it's just a simple mistake but poor George may get the impression that he's being unfairly persecuted.

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... with a message suggesting it was second instance of the post in Feelings.

I don't see that particular message, Grinch? I wasn't aware the thread had been closed, but it's not too difficult to discern why Mike might be prompted to do so.

This thread was closed because it seemed obvious to me that George was looking for a chance to "ooh, I don't know any history but look how much I intuited in my poem" again. And, of course, all that aside, it's a little silly to start a new discussion thread to talk about a poem just posted (and, at the time, with no replies yet). George got away with that once, but once was probably enough.

I have to guess, Grinch, that Mike closed the poetry thread not because there was a "second instance of the post," but because George insisted on trying to turn the thread to serve his own agenda. Feelings isn't the best place to discuss individual poems posted in Open, and Open isn't really the place to rant about our horrible pro-Christian prejudices. It's not a whole lot more complicated than that, I think.


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I didn't object to either being closed Ron, and, despite not being psychic, I pretty much guessed the reason in each instance.

Thanks for the explanation though; hopefully it'll avoid George wondering what the heck had occurred.

Or maybe he already knew - perhaps I should have asked him.

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49 posted 08-16-2009 04:57 PM       View Profile for crosscountry83   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for crosscountry83

That's punny, Grinch.  Thank you both for setting me straight.

Rileigh
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