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Member Rara Avis
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25 posted 08-11-2005 09:13 AM       View Profile for littlewing   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for littlewing

hands down, you posted it, I am reading it.  I never know what you may need or what game you want to play.  

Plus, it sounded like you needed help.

so plbbt!

and titles?  God, I love reading poetry with titles I am unfamiliar with or something I have to do research on.  I like to read about things I can be educated about.  You see, I know - depending on my mood, that is, who I need to read - because I know that person, whatever they have written, will make me feel better, because most of the time?

They are thinking the same thing I am, or feeling the way I do at that particular  point in time.  PLUS, by reading of others feelings, especially when I am feeling down, makes me feel better.

I dont think I actually read certain people, do I?  I try to randomly scope out something and most of the time all I have to do is stare at the title and the name and just know, I was meant to go read this.  
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26 posted 08-11-2005 10:48 AM       View Profile for Ringo   Email Ringo   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Ringo

Actually Karen ,I read things here because... uh... wait....
I need to check in, first, don't I???

I'M HERE!!!!!!

Anyhow... I read things here based on the name on the post (those whose writing I enjoy most), then I read some new ones I haven't read before, and then I get around to others if I have time.
The only time the title comes into play is deciding which of multiple posts to read by the same author, or if there is one that is especially intriguing.
  (try the after dark section)

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27 posted 08-11-2005 12:45 PM       View Profile for suthern   Email suthern   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for suthern

You bellowed, madame??? LOL

Being more than a bit ornery and obstinate, I usually ignore commands to READ THIS... but of course, for every rule, there are exceptions... so I'll freely admit I opened this thread because of WHO wrote it, not because of the command. (As others did... I thought you needed us, put on my jogging shoes and... well geesh. LOL)

Okay, okay... I ramble... can't help it... I'm blonde and thinking is difficult enough without anyone expecting a direct path. LOL

Bottom line? I look first for favorite poets... for even though I have a STRONG preference for someone caring enough to slap a decent title on top of their words, there are some people I'd read if they used numbers or pure gibberish to distinguish their poems... and I'd still feel like I'd tumbled into a room filled with treasure. *G* I guess if what you write is good enough, the title is merely a tool. *G* But most of us who need every tool we can beg, borrow or steal. LOL

And... while I'm looking for my favorite poets, I'm also drawn to poems because of their titles... and that's led to additional favorite poets. Do some titles disappoint? Yup... by being too good. *S* I hate finishing a poem with the feeling the author put their best work on the subject line. *S*

(Susan... you're not alone... there are also those I check out just to see what they're up to... even knowing I'm making my dentist wealthy trying to counteract my teeth grinding! LOL)
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28 posted 08-11-2005 02:48 PM       View Profile for Christopher   Email Christopher   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Christopher

With the limited amount of time i have to spend online, the title is about the only thing that will prompt me to read a piece. There are a few of our less prolific autors (Alicia, for example) that will cause me to read irregardless, but as a rule it's the title. Even some of my favorite authors (yourself, for example) who are prolific will only grab me with a catchy title.

I am less stringent in the discussion forums, but only because they demand much less out of me and because I don't feel compelled to reply to every one. Good poetry, however, demands a response and I could (and have, in the past) spend hours just replying.

So, the reason I read this is because I knew it would demand little, but provide for some mild entertainment for a few moments before I close the browser and jump back into my work.
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29 posted 08-11-2005 03:06 PM       View Profile for Essorant   Email Essorant   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Essorant's Home Page   View IP for Essorant

It makes me think the author needs attention more urgently.  And if someone seems to need attention more urgently, that is a good enough reason to give it.  
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30 posted 08-11-2005 09:24 PM       View Profile for gemjop   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for gemjop

That was odd. I did it because you said so. Submissive!

Normally though, if it weren't for seeing your name by it and me thinking it would likely be something interesting or humorous, i would have not clicked it.

READ THIS, is often used in forums like this by desperate people who want you to reply, like 'RePlY tO tHiS!' Usually teens who have that awful obsession with doing the aforementioned atrocity with letters.  

Yes, so normally, whenever i see something in capitals say on this or any other related forum, my brain says; 'Nope, this is gonna be *bleep* because its a typical desperate someobody SHOUTING at me begging me to read, who already thinks/knows no one will reply because its probably drivel (how catty of me)'

The BOLD desperation just puts me off. If you're going to be desperate, do it with style! Seeing something that says 'PLEASE READ AND REPLY TO THIS< IT TOOK SO MUCH WORK/TIME/MEANS SO MUCH' Makes me tut and want to scream back EVERYONE IS HAVING THE SAME PROBLEM!!!

But then i think i must be quite an easily irked individual.

Capitals are sometimes ok, if they serve a purpose, if it fits with a poem/subject.

Is it MARK V SHELDON who always uses capitals? See that never offends me/puts me off/makes me think 'stop shouting!', because i like his words, and its just 'him'.

Oh hark at me, one rule for one and another for the others!  

Titles that pull me in are rare.  

BUT, when titles do draw you in, its great, an extra treat. Icebox's always stick in my mind. They remind me of chapters in story books.

But mostly, its an author that gets me, regardless of title.

I sometimes use/incorporate a theme of the poem, not always neccessarily a word or line from it. Sometimes a more hidden theme, sometimes an obvious one. Usually the latter due to my impatience and incompetence in subject line writing.

I'm rubbish at it though. So any old thing pulls me in, as i feel everyones pain. except, of course for the begging subject liners of course. Oh, and the cliche lines. I think i've done a fair few of those *cringe*

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31 posted 08-11-2005 09:42 PM       View Profile for gemjop   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for gemjop

Susan! I just decided to read the rest of the replies i origionally skipped past on this thread, and saw this and nearly wet myself!  

"and well, (this is why it's confessions) I also read those I don't care for much just to see what they are going to say next... *sigh* I know I need need to tell me."

So funny, so true. We all must do the same.

Then i noticed you mentioned icebox also! It seemed weird to me at first that we both mentioned him out of everyone, but then i thought well, he is an incredibly captivating subject line writer, so its not strange at all that he should be recognised! People really should look him up for inspiration though.

ahhhhh still laughing at confession no 2.

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32 posted 08-11-2005 11:45 PM       View Profile for Local Rebel   Email Local Rebel   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Local Rebel

David Ogilvy -- the master salesman/adman, co-founder of Ogilvy & Mathers -- if you want to know what works in print you go ask the people who create direct response advertising...

All caps = IGNORE THIS

It's harder for the brain to process -- so I think it's fairly accurate for people to say they read it because you wrote it...

The ascenders and descenders of lower case make for faster easier reading -- also black text on white background is the easiest and fastest for the brain to process (for those of you who still insist on putting up pink text on a sky blue background -- clashing colours and with little gradient shifts is the worst you can do)

As for the length of the title -- a long headline was found to garner the best response in advertising -- up to ten words long.

In order to get people to read past the headline and into the text a drop initial (you know that huge first letter sometimes used on the first word) was found to generate more readership than text without.

More than you asked for...

But, I bet you read it.  

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33 posted 08-12-2005 06:53 AM       View Profile for Elan   Email Elan   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Elan

Reb, I think we read You because of your

Gemma - your reply was charming, and started my day off just right!


Did you know I have to work hard at NOT EVER capitalizing your name? The undertone of the simple word serenity - tranquil, quiet, peaceful, still screams at me to type, Serenity, with gratitude.

And Reb? That pink on blue?  Agreed!
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34 posted 08-12-2005 06:27 PM       View Profile for GG   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for GG

I'm a bit late here, but...

I read it because I didn't expect you to cry wolf. Obviously I was mistaken. lol

With limited time and poetic desire lately (when I can't write I think no one else should be able to either!) I look for my favorite authors, and once I find them I choose a couple based on titles that I want to read. There are a few I'll read no matter what. And then I find new people and/or interesting titles and will read and comment on those. That's what I try to do, at least.

But y'know, now whenever we see an all caps post we'll be expecting it's you in disguise...

I will say, though... usually I do read a post like that. I just don't reply unless it's one of those rare times when I believe it'd do some good.

Also, poetry and discussion forums are very different for that kind of thing. If it's in a discussion forum then I think maybe there's actually some important news that will affect my life... so I read. I'm selfish like that...



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35 posted 08-12-2005 07:36 PM       View Profile for serenity blaze   Email serenity blaze   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for serenity blaze

I wasn't trying to pull a fast one one anyone.


Forgive me, folks, I did a stint in marketing once (does it show?) and I was curious about how presentation affects people sunbconciously.

(Hey...I said it wasn't very scientific.)

But thanks all, with nods to Reb and Nan (who has helped me once or twice with title changes in the past)

and special grins for those of all ya'll who will drop in to see me, even if I have NOTHING TO SAY. (or yell)

and sorry I'm tardy again.


And thanks for playing along...
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36 posted 08-12-2005 08:22 PM       View Profile for Janet Marie   Email Janet Marie   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Janet Marie

I would play with you any time...
Hells Bells...
I'd play with you even if you didnt rhyme.    

I'd play with you rain or shine...
day or night, oh twin of mine
(your sandbox or mine)


I'll bare the brunt of your long buried pain
I don't mind helping you out ...
But I want you to remember my name


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37 posted 08-12-2005 08:43 PM       View Profile for serenity blaze   Email serenity blaze   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for serenity blaze



(I've had a migraine folks, and I suspect it's a combo of stress and eye probs.)


It might have something to do with this:

and Jan...sheesh, with all the cats in our lives, y'still wanna venture into a sandbox? *wince* and *wink*

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38 posted 08-12-2005 11:12 PM       View Profile for sandgrain   Email sandgrain   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for sandgrain

First, I checked to see if there were any new postings.  Yes  Then I see it's by you. Yes  Lastly, you made it quite clear what I had to do. READ THIS!  So authorative, I was sure it was something extremely important like you'd won the lottery, or you're coming to visit each of us, so just had to find out.

Sure now you know what gets our attention.

Usually my poems just come out, then I have to think and think to come up with a title.  Strange, isn't it?  I have boxes full of unnamed little ones.
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39 posted 08-14-2005 10:56 PM       View Profile for sandgrain   Email sandgrain   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for sandgrain

Golly!  I was sure I'd responded to this, but don't see it now.  Maybe I put the response somewhere else or I was dreaming.  I clicked on it because it was you and you seemed desparate in all caps and demanding in word. All caps is like yelling "Wolf" too often.  It might work for a bit, but soon loses it's meaning.  My poetry usually comes out and I write it down, then I have to work to come up with a title.

Neat experiment, though.

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40 posted 08-15-2005 05:04 PM       View Profile for iliana   Email iliana   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for iliana

LOL......I did, Karen.  Got me. .....jojo
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41 posted 08-15-2005 06:56 PM       View Profile for Michael   Email Michael   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Michael

Well, caps alone won't get me -- but caps from you do.
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42 posted 08-15-2005 07:26 PM       View Profile for Sunshine   Email Sunshine   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Sunshine's Home Page   View IP for Sunshine

LOL...yea....what Michael said!
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43 posted 08-15-2005 08:27 PM       View Profile for serenity blaze   Email serenity blaze   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for serenity blaze


Ya'll are all so sweet.(And it's good to see ya Mike. )

Ya'll are so kind to me that it just may start interfering with my whole self-loathing trip.

grins and love to you all

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44 posted 08-21-2005 09:55 AM       View Profile for 1slick_lady   Email 1slick_lady   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit 1slick_lady's Home Page   View IP for 1slick_lady

ok ok ok i'm here
caps no caps i read
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45 posted 01-18-2006 04:44 AM       View Profile for Fee   Email Fee   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Fee

Nope, sorry not cause it was all caps, but because YOU told me to, and I listen to people who have much to say :-) besides I am just a big sticky, Wanted to know what you wanted me to read so I could decide if I wanted to read it.


are the most important aspects, they create impressions

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46 posted 08-04-2009 06:09 PM       View Profile for crosscountry83   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for crosscountry83

I read it.  It might have been because it said "read this," though.

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47 posted 08-04-2009 07:34 PM       View Profile for Alwye   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Alwye

Caps usually annoy me, so I will purposefully not read something by someone who uses them (or if they say "please read" or "please comment").

However, I do also look for familiar names who I know will give me something worthwhile to read.

In addition, intriguing titles cause me to click too!
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48 posted 08-04-2009 08:18 PM       View Profile for Falling rain   Email Falling rain   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Falling rain's Home Page   View IP for Falling rain

Well its the poet in which I read the post.

If you have a favorite poet post something then you usually read what they have to say.

But when you put "READ THIS" as a title. It draws my attention too. Its like on t.v where the commercial is like "BUY NOW!!!" I don't know about you but I have the urge to buy now. LOL

Nice experiment too.


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49 posted 08-30-2009 12:37 PM       View Profile for Temptress   Email Temptress   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Temptress

Its still working...I read it because you wrote it!

"Its gonna be alright cause I'm okay with me"


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