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Huan Yi
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0 posted 10-30-2004 07:48 AM       View Profile for Huan Yi   Email Huan Yi   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Huan Yi

“Babies are the way men chain women to their pain.”

“You know you have to think about these things
because you’re not that pretty.”


These were comments each by a different parent heard
by a different woman when a child, (in the first the
woman was the first born).  

From whose mouth, Father’s or Mother’s, would such
comments be most influential to a girl?


iliana
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The first comment should come from the father, I think, to be more influential.  The second comment should not be said at all, I feel, because it does not need to be.  Hope my comments do not offend.  

That first comment kind of bothers me, too.  I think that it is true sometimes, especially in some cultures, third world countries or the Middle East, maybe, but for the most part, for a woman, having a baby is the miracle of her life and that should be added to the comment if spoken....jo
Huan Yi
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Both comments are quotes related to me
by two women who had heard them made to them
by their own mothers.  In the first the woman was the first
born of the mother in question.  In the movie The Crow
there was an extraordinary comment made that:
“Mother is another name for God for little boys and girls.”
I don’t believe that true for boys.

A Tone of Voice
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Interesting quotes...all too often women come off 2nd class in cultures other than ours and even here at times.

I wish women were valued, not as equals in the regard we should be identical to men, but in a way that compliments---creating an atmosphere that encourages equilibrium for individuals as well as society.  
LeeJ
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4 posted 12-15-2004 07:41 AM       View Profile for LeeJ   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for LeeJ

Perhaps that is the gift the Di Vinci Code has given us...I don't nor will I ever believe that Women were created to be underclassmen?

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quote:
“Mother is another name for God for little boys and girls.”
I don’t believe that true for boys.


I think it depends on the age.

In my opinion, the "Goddess" phase ends probably after the age of two or three, when children (both girls and boys) start to assert their autonomy.

However, looking at it from the other side, I think it's safe to say that mothers can be goddesses in their childrens' lives whether the children regard them as such or not.  When I think of how different my life might have been had my mother not been there ... she starts looking pretty divine to me.  
 
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