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Kellie_Cantrell
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0 posted 03-16-2003 01:04 AM       View Profile for Kellie_Cantrell   Email Kellie_Cantrell   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Kellie_Cantrell


I think that maybe I should. I write my poetry from the heart. Let me tell you now that I am not complaining I am just speaking out that I feel like crap right now.

I noticed that at one point Ron (Not that I have anything against you Ron) said that it would be very difficult for poets to get more than one poem in the book. Yet today I noticed that many of the poets have multiple "ACCEPTS" next to their names and poem titles. I feel excessivly rejected because well all of my poems didn't make the cut and I expected that at least one would.

It seems really unfair the way the computer is working. I don't know what to do. If you are unhappy with this message I am sorry if I offended you. I want to wish everyone who "Is in the book" the best!  Good Job!

Sincerely,
Kellie

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1 posted 03-16-2003 01:16 AM       View Profile for Poet deVine   Email Poet deVine   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Poet deVine

If you want honesty, here it is. You have voted for other poems 24 times. Part of your scores are based on indirect votes - votes you get by reading and voting for others. This is the purpose - those poems that get votes get in the book. We are not done by a long shot..there is still time for you to have a poem in the book.

Now that I have a poem in the book, I intend to spend my time reading and voting. Even though I won't have another poem in the book, I want everyone to have a chance to be included and to do that I have to vote for poems.


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2 posted 03-16-2003 11:21 AM       View Profile for Greeneyes   Email Greeneyes   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Greeneyes

Personally, I think you should feel honored that RON would do something like this.....not many sights on the net would DEVOTE as much time and love and patience to having a book published, and then to include others.....I guess we could all find something to complain about, but dont do it here, its not right.....be honored you will even be considered....I know I am....and it will make no difference to me HOW many get published, roll the dice and take your chances....thats what its all about....and if rejection comes TRY again!


Lauren~

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Running after dreams ~
I made it through another lonely night
Thinking of you
I know I should be strong
I just can’t say ~goodbye~(LR)

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3 posted 03-16-2003 11:47 AM       View Profile for Sunshine   Email Sunshine   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Sunshine's Home Page   View IP for Sunshine

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Kellie, read Ron's reply here.  I think it fits this same thread.  Don't quit.  Hugs,

    Karilea - If I whisper, will you listen?...

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4 posted 03-16-2003 12:03 PM       View Profile for Larry C   Email Larry C   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Larry C's Home Page   View IP for Larry C

Kellie dear,
I truly want your work in the book. But the longer work is hard to get in. Sounds like we have about three more rounds to go. I still hope "My Teacher, My Guide" gets in. I'll even bump it from time to time. But the longer poems are harder to get in the book. Courage dear girl.

If tears could build a stairway and memories a lane, I'd walk right up to heaven and bring you home again.

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5 posted 03-17-2003 02:52 AM       View Profile for Mysteria   Email Mysteria   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Mysteria

Kellie, I read and read and read, until I could not find any more poems to read.  I didn't vote on all of them as some did not deserve to be put into the book and therefore I had to read more to increase my indirect vote count to get my score up there to get a poem into the book.  

Look at your poems, and see how many people read them and did comment and be proud of that.   Poetry is first done for yourself and the rest if gravy after that.  Hang in there - the game is not over yet, but like Larry said, the longer ones are harder to be accepted (2 pages in the book) and that is the mistake I have made as well.  Good luck!

           
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Aretha Franklin  

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6 posted 03-20-2003 11:02 AM       View Profile for regards2you   Email regards2you   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for regards2you


Kellie,

I have not read ANY of your poetry. Why? ..because I spent 1 1/2 hrs. reading other's poetry, attracted usually by title, and it took me that long to review 15 poems. I replied to 9 of those. Some were written by popular poets and well written, but I didn't like their poem, so didn't comment.  I've done the 1-3 hour stint, several times.

I really read and try to absorb everyone's poem. It is time consuming. How many have you read and replied to? As pointed out, that does make a difference.

I submitted three poems, (one got lost and I did not resubmit it for it only had ten votes). Mine did not get voted in (yet)...but I do not believe this is "roll the dice and take your chance."

Read Ron's original notes regarding submitting poems. He asked in so many words, before submitting, to check and make sure our poems were worthy to be printed beside the works of other poets, some master poets,  who will have submitted their best.

To me worthy means:

Correct spelling ( I don't have a word processor so I write the poem as an e-mail to myself and use the spell-check)

Learn the different meanings of words which sound alike and use them properly: [then-than] [to-two-too] [their-there] [effect-affect] etc., etc.

Punctuation
Cadence
Rhythm
Rhyme
Alliteration
Imagery - very important
~Original~ Concept
Format

and the list goes on.....BTW: I had to look up cadence and alliteration in the dictionary to be sure I understood the meaning of those two words!

I think poetry is timeless and universal. If a poem has those elements, plus the other aspects above,  I believe it will be selected.

Mine are works in progress. I still get hung up emotionally, and insist to myself, on using a particular phrase I came up with, which does not fit into the flow, or rhthym, etc. because I wrote...I love it...I did that...and assume everyone else is gonna LOVE IT, so I slide it into a poem and suppose no one will notice...or trip over it. I also didn't want to take the time to make it a better poem.

Some of my poetry is more like a page from a personal journal and took me awhile to realize it. Not real poetry.    

I am a novice poetry writer. If my poems don't get selected there is only ONE REASON.

I WORK very hard at improving. I have come to learn poetry writing is much more than putting my feelings down on paper...

My eleven year old grandson just started writing. He came to me with a poem and I pointed out all the above listed. The face he made is memorable. Didn't know he could raise his eyebrows that high! We worked together on it and he is learning what I am still learning...how to write good poetry...doesn't happen overnight..

I have not read yours but wanted you to realize many of us have not been selected yet. Mine might not be voted in, but that just tells me I have a lot of work to do. Hard work!!! So does Joshua (my grandson) if he plans on writing or asking me what I think of his.

Not getting voted in is not a reflection of who I am. I am a worthy person, period. And so are you in case you might feel rejected or hurt...

Sorry for the long reply but I wanted you to know you are not alone...more didn't get selected than did! Many of us feel as you.

Hugs, Pat

..without surrender, be on good terms with all persons..
        "Desiderata"

littlewing
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7 posted 03-21-2003 02:47 AM       View Profile for littlewing   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for littlewing

Kellie - I bleed on these blue pages - as we all do and I reply to just about everything I can relate to - even some that I cant but are just silk . . . you know?  I have voted for many poems as people have for my own - I personally feel that we are even lucky to have such a forum where we can feel at home and express ourselves - I for one love it here and am happy for friends of mine that HAVE been chosen.  I have learned from many in such a short time and hey if I dont get published - oh well -the next one will be the kicker - keep writing - keep posting and reply reply reply . . .  and if there are poets with more than one poem than obviously they deserve it - Im not quite there yet - you know?  Need to sharpen my edges - so being picked is not important to me - what is - is what I learn while I am here xxoo  
 
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