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KoKo
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0 posted 02-16-2003 06:05 AM       View Profile for KoKo   Email KoKo   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for KoKo

Well...I recently got a poem published by a well known poetry site. I am disgusted to find out that it is all a scam!!! And millions of poets go there and get their peice published, thinking they've done something great and wonderful!!!...But how is it fair when you have to pay for this "Reward Bowl with Name Inscription"...You have to pay to get the book it's published in...And when they send you the letter saying they want you to go to some fancy poetry reading in washington d.c....they want you to pay for the trip, too?
This is a free site I'm talking about. It costs nothing to post your poems, costs nothing to register. And the name of the site is utterly seductive...It's normally the first thing a poet or poetry reader puts in the search bar when they start searching for a place to read and post poetry!! This is disgusting. The letter they send you is full of deceiving, heart warming compliments...And then they send you an email later saying that they're sorry you won't be able to join them in D.C. because...such and such a reason!! AAAAAAAGH!!! How can people DO this to someone?!...
...ok...i just needed to let that out....

I do not know whether I was then a man dreaming I was a butterfly, or whether I am now a butterfly dreaming I am a man.
--Chang Tzu

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1 posted 02-16-2003 08:20 AM       View Profile for Poet deVine   Email Poet deVine   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Poet deVine

Trust me, Koko. We've ALL been there done that!! A lot of us were scammed by them too. There should be a law against that kind of thing! I have a friend at work who is so proud that she's been published in 5 of their books!! I told her once it was a scam but she refused to listen to me.
nakdthoughts
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2 posted 02-16-2003 09:57 AM       View Profile for nakdthoughts   Email nakdthoughts   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for nakdthoughts

I am embarassed to say that the sites real location is in the area where I grew up and is only an hour from here.

But truth be told, anyone can be published for a price and it just depends on how high you want that price to be.

I know of others who have all submitted even the  dumbest nonsense poems or phrases and they were told they  made it into the book. ..or have  been getting the letters telling them their poem was in the top "whatever", but the last time they submitted was 3 years ago or more.
It's a business, and all they want is your money and your poem will be in the book...and for the rest, it just depends on how naive you are as to what lies you believe.

Sorry, but I always research these things now, just to be sure they aren't a scam
(which this isn't because they give you what they promise...or they would be shut down by now)

M
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3 posted 02-16-2003 04:31 PM       View Profile for Charisma   Email Charisma   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Charisma's Home Page   View IP for Charisma

ouch KoKo.....been there, done that too...know the feeling quit well

(((warm hugs)))

Charisma
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4 posted 02-17-2003 10:58 PM       View Profile for Connel   Email Connel   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Connel

   I once too went ands tried to post a few poems into a poetry book... They said my Copyright would be there, its free, and only child safe poetry was aload. So I said cool. Posted my best poem. Got an e-mail saying, Your poem has been sent in to be analyzed. So i waited. about 3 days later I got another e-mail saying. Congrats, your poem is approoved. It will be puplished into ( book title, I cant remember. =( ).. And so I thought cool, so i decided to do this with all of my poems.. And they all were approoved. Then when the book was puplished. I waited for it to get to the library. And went and checked it out. had about 500 pages. Checked every one four times, not even one of my poems were in it.. And then I went into the credits, looking for my name. Wasnt there either.

I probably could have took them to court, but, I got over it.

The point is, this happens to every one.

Anyone can write, But only poets can capture the heart.

KoKo
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5 posted 02-18-2003 08:46 AM       View Profile for KoKo   Email KoKo   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for KoKo

I just wish it didn't happen. I wish there was some way I could stop this! :'(

I do not know whether I was then a man dreaming I was a butterfly, or whether I am now a butterfly dreaming I am a man.
--Chang Tzu

Albert J. Allie
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6 posted 03-22-2003 10:49 PM       View Profile for Albert J. Allie   Email Albert J. Allie   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Albert J. Allie

You mean...I really didn't win that silver bowl with my name on it? Darn I was soooo close. Kidding. I still get the e-mails with the link to the picture of it. I dont need an award to tell me my writing is good. Touching the hearts of those who read my words and inspiring THEM is my reward. Anyone who charges you to publish or recieve and "award" is a scam. Unless you are self publishing. I WILL give you an award for your poetry. Your award is all of us "mostly me" Here on this site who love and enjoy reading your work!
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7 posted 03-23-2003 05:11 PM       View Profile for Jason Lyle   Email Jason Lyle   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Jason Lyle

I fell for this to, never sent any cash.But I was so excited.Me? in print..........wow.I caught on to the scam qwik and never sent a dime.Now I go into print under the votes of fellow poets.That makes me proud.
Jason
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8 posted 03-23-2003 08:49 PM       View Profile for Midnitesun   Email Midnitesun   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Midnitesun

Well, I don't even know what site you are talking about, but I know Pips is the only one I'm posting at now, as I've heard too many horror stories!
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9 posted 03-24-2003 09:43 PM       View Profile for littlewing   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for littlewing

guilty . . .
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10 posted 03-26-2003 01:29 PM       View Profile for Justbleu   Email Justbleu   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Justbleu's Home Page   View IP for Justbleu

After hearing of this....my home will only ever be Passions!!!!  
Bridgette

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11 posted 03-26-2003 03:55 PM       View Profile for catalinamoon   Email catalinamoon   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit catalinamoon's Home Page   View IP for catalinamoon

Happened to me too. When I got the letter, I realized how full of it they were. It's a really cheap trick, isn't it?
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12 posted 03-26-2003 05:07 PM       View Profile for bsquirrel   Email bsquirrel   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for bsquirrel

Happened here, too. I think you know you're no longer a poetry virgin when you've been fleeced by a publishing ring.
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13 posted 03-27-2003 10:37 AM       View Profile for regards2you   Email regards2you   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for regards2you



Just curious how you know you were not published in one of their anthologies. If it is the well-known site I'm thinking of, I, thought one does  not have to purchase the book to be in it, or any of the items offered with poem printed on it. Since there are millions (?) of poets/poems run through this organization I can't imagine how they could offer free air fare and lodgings for a ~formal get-together~ to honor poets....
Does any organization of poets do that? I don't think so, for one poem? Just looking at the other side of this issue. They do give out cash rewards and it was a disappointment to find they chose the winner by date/time stamp of poem. It was a beginning and we move on and get lucky when we find this site, appreciating it that much more.  Publishing, distribution and advertising are not cost free, though. It did not cost a dime to be printed there, if it is the organization I'm thinking of.  Just one more opinion.
Hugs, Pat

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KoKo
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14 posted 03-27-2003 10:55 AM       View Profile for KoKo   Email KoKo   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for KoKo

There are plenty of sites showing the same opinions. And when I say plenty, I mean [edited]. You're right, I'm sure some sites aren't a scam. But I still hold my belief strong that this one is.
Try looking it up with a search engine. It's quite interesting.

I do not know whether I was then a man dreaming I was a butterfly, or whether I am now a butterfly dreaming I am a man.
--Chang Tzu

[This message has been edited by Ron (03-27-2003 11:36 AM).]

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15 posted 03-28-2003 12:08 AM       View Profile for Ringo   Email Ringo   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Ringo

I, too, have fallen victim to the P*****.com scam of the ages. The REALLY hard part is that I neglected to save the hard copies of the two poems I was going to have published (if I happened to buy their $40 book) and when I recently went on that site to retrieve them to post here, I wasn't even allowed to retreive them off the site.
Luckily I did happen to find the hard copy, and posted it on here, however,as a bright person once told me, "failure isn't failure if a lesson is learned"

Imagine all the People living life in peace...
John Lennon

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16 posted 03-28-2003 02:17 AM       View Profile for GG   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for GG

happened to me too...
the funny thing is, the first poem I put in their that was selected was horrible.. as in, it was one of the first I'd written and it was forced rhyme and words.. I made it on like two more 'rounds' and was asked to go to the party too. Sad thing is, I did it twice! ..never spent a dime though.

Always, Alyssa

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17 posted 03-28-2003 02:01 PM       View Profile for wings of the moon   Email wings of the moon   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for wings of the moon

did it too...
the thing is that I'm not allowed to ever spend money on internet (by my mother ) so as soon as they mentionned me having to pay i backed off and ignored all their further post and e-mails.
If they want to spend money sending me rubbish its their problem... but I'll never spend money to get published unless i am a 100% sure that its worthwhile and i'll get paid back
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18 posted 03-28-2003 03:11 PM       View Profile for KristieSue   Email KristieSue   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit KristieSue's Home Page   View IP for KristieSue

This "bright one" says:  if you can't find a hardcopy of your poem, go back to P*****.com and search for the poem.  Run your mouse over it and select...copy it, and paste it into a new word document.  Print it...and there ya go.

I don't think there's an inspiring poet out there who hasn't placed their heart on the line, to realize there are people trying to make money EVERYWHERE.

If you got scammed, take heart.  One good thing about posting a poem on these sites, is that you are sharing your poetry with random people.  They may be inspired to write for the first time or to get back to writing again.  You may wake someone up to reality of their life, save a life, or simply make someone smile.  There is a reason in everything...make it a good one.

Failure isn't failure if a lesson from it is learned ~ KS

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19 posted 04-02-2003 09:12 PM       View Profile for Magnus   Email Magnus   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Magnus

KoKo,  

I am glad that you started this thread,  for
I am sure there are lots of new members who
can learn from what has been posted here.
I too received all of the correspondence and
went through my initial euphoria...  then
I went through the sudden and sickening feel
of someone trying to take advantage of me.

I was fortunate...never cost me a penny.  But the feeling in my gut didn't go away
for a very long time.

Sad....
Bill Charles
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20 posted 04-26-2003 07:58 PM       View Profile for Bill Charles   Email Bill Charles   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Bill Charles

Koko - don't feel too bad, as you can see others have been there, including me...

BC
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21 posted 04-27-2003 02:10 PM       View Profile for WinterWren   Email WinterWren   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit WinterWren's Home Page   View IP for WinterWren

Poetry.com right??!! Yeah CNN or some news company even did a show on them.
They went to a kindergarden and had all the kids send in poems.
ALL the kids got letters saying how wonderful and perfectly written ect. ect. their poems were!

WinterWren
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22 posted 06-02-2003 11:24 PM       View Profile for Joyce Johnson   Email Joyce Johnson   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Joyce Johnson

I have a funny story about this.  I went in to post on this site.  I hit a button and all that got in was the title of my poem.  I received one of their congratulatory letters and all of the offers at a cost that the rest of you got naming this one as my wonderfull poem..  I returned an email to them telling them that I thought they were a scam and of course they ignored me, but I'm still getting letters.  Joyce
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23 posted 06-03-2003 01:56 PM       View Profile for Fading Away   Email Fading Away   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Fading Away

would this website happen to be http://www.poetry.com?

*nods* Yeah, happened to me, too. I think it happened to half of the poets at this site.

Someone should take that site off the internet. They've had their fun.

--Marie

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24 posted 06-03-2003 03:24 PM       View Profile for Local Parasite   Email Local Parasite   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Local Parasite's Home Page   View IP for Local Parasite

quote:
P*****.com


That gave me a laugh, KristieSue, because for a second I thought poetry.com was one of the words caught by our filters.     Which would make sense, ya know.  

I still think it's disgraceful that this company happens to have that domain name.  piptalk is the ONLY site on the internet that should come up when you type "poetry.com" into your browser.

We should file a class-action lawsuit against them for fraud, if we can prove that they don't 'carefully select' their poems like they say they do.  Maybe we can have them legally change their name to "poetryscam.com" and give the "poetry.com" domain to Ron, who is much more deserving of it...

[This message has been edited by Local Parasite (06-03-2003 03:27 PM).]

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