'~ With regards to being born as a homosexual, that is not excusing it, so I am missing your point here.'
Yes, it is. It's the "they can't help it, they were born that way" excuse.
'that doesn't mean they should be chastised or deemed to be evil because they did not choose to be born that way.'
Please explain to me if and how I am misconstruing your statement here- because I definitely read "they can't help it, they were born that way" between the lines here- if that's not what you meant, exactly what did you mean?
'~ Not the same thing, you are mixing the actions taken by a person or a group of persons with the abnormality of being born homosexual. Being born black is not an abnormality.'
Yes- but keep in mind that there are some people who feel racism and notice behaviors that either are more common, or they perceive to be more common in specific races of people, and they use the same rationalization. For example, a white person in the 1950's or 60's might not hate black people, or want to see them predjudiced against because "They can't help it they're not as intelligent- they're black." That is an observation (albeit and ignorant one) based on behavior.
'Being held accountable for one's action, whether white, black, homosexual, etc is logical.'
Why do gay people have to be held accountable for their actions in ways that heterosexual people don't? Yes- they do have the responsibility to tell their partners about any STDs they may be carrying... but in a way, aren't they absolved of a responsibility that heterosexual people have- the pregnancy issue? To my way of thinking, they have less to be held accountable for in that sense... but why did you mention "being held accountable for actions?" I'm not even sure what you mean- what do you mean?
'If you defend homosexuality as normal, how can you logically believe that pedophiles and those who practice in beastiality are not normal?'
Homosexuals function, sexually... with consent, in the same way that heterosexual people do. I hesitate to define what is 'normal,' but what about that which is lawful? Homosexual and heterosexual sex are legal, while rape by both groups is a crime- and in the case of bestiality, it is rape of the animal by default (how can an animal consent to sex with a human? I guess one can rationalize that if the animal acts on its own volition, without being physically forced, it is passive consent, and therefore not animal abuse... but a police officer can not receive a verbal response if he/she asks an animal if it willfully consented to the sexual act.) and in the case of pedophilia... most children who are victims are probably forced. Even if a child consents, it doesn't matter-statutary rape. Illegal.
Who is John Galt?
[This message has been edited by hush (08-02-2002 09:06 AM).]