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Magnus
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0 posted 06-25-2002 10:54 AM       View Profile for Magnus   Email Magnus   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Magnus

About 18 months ago,  I sent a couple of poems to
a poetry site.. (name familiar to many of us) ...  After all of their literature and
reading a few things....I became aware in my mind
that their sole interest in me...was trying to sell
something...Value of poetry was second to that, if
that high...

So,  recently I sent in another poem.....just to
see what kind of response I would get...To see if
the same game was being played...

Well, sure enough....

First...they wanted to put my poem into an Anthology.  And offered my own copy for $49.50 or
thereabouts....

Then...came the kicker....I get this notification
that I have been selected to receive their International Poet of Merit Silver Award Bowl and
get to read my poem to everyone there.....at the
Summer Convention
in August....  (that was what the Email I received
said)...though the letter I received did not
directly say I was to be awarded it....

Yeah Right......Sure I will....

Anywhooo.....I will not fall prey to this...I do
feel it is a ploy to get money and has little to
do with poetic excellence or accomplishment...

Anyone else gotten one of these invitations?  Just
curious to see how many of us may have been selected.

Thanx,

Barry

[This message has been edited by Magnus (06-25-2002 10:56 AM).]

catalinamoon
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1 posted 06-25-2002 11:34 AM       View Profile for catalinamoon   Email catalinamoon   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit catalinamoon's Home Page   View IP for catalinamoon

Me too Barry. Same exact thing. Twice, cause I submitted 2 poems before I figured out the scam. I did not however, attend the"convention", or buy the anthology.
It's annoying,isn't it, when you really think you have some writing that deserves publishing, and this is the only kind of feedback you get? (Only kind I get, anyway)
Sandra
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2 posted 06-25-2002 01:07 PM       View Profile for Poet deVine   Email Poet deVine   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Poet deVine

I've gotten them for years....they make great liner for the bottom of the bird cage!
Magnus
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3 posted 06-25-2002 01:50 PM       View Profile for Magnus   Email Magnus   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Magnus

Sandra,  thanx for getting back to me...One
of my friends also received something similar
about three months ago....she was very very
excited about it....It devastated me, because
I knew the truth...and it was very difficult
for me to break the reality to her.  She
felt as used as I did after my first
announcement of becoming a finalist, blah
blah, blah blah....

Even overheard a teenager saying the same
thing at church once....I didn't have the
heart to say anything to her....

PoetD....That is a pretty good plan for
the use of the paper....I might use it for
something very similar....
Sunshine
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4 posted 06-25-2002 02:39 PM       View Profile for Sunshine   Email Sunshine   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Sunshine's Home Page   View IP for Sunshine


Buy a shredder and turn the paper into kitty litter material...
Magnus
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5 posted 06-25-2002 02:42 PM       View Profile for Magnus   Email Magnus   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Magnus

Uhhhh...Sun..

I have the shredder,  but the chunks that
come out are pretty big....Me thinks would
have to be a pretty big cat too?

Hmmmmm...maybe I can send them the cat?
Whatcha think?  Let a Tiger accept the
award for me....?????
Kit McCallum
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6 posted 06-25-2002 04:28 PM       View Profile for Kit McCallum   Email Kit McCallum   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Kit McCallum

Me too, Barry ... I wrote this shortly after I joined Passions and asked a few similar questions, lol ... have a peek.
http://piptalk.com/pip/Forum37/HTML/000217.html

Magnus
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7 posted 06-25-2002 08:44 PM       View Profile for Magnus   Email Magnus   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Magnus

Kit,  other than the crash from the fall
of realizing that I was being taken,  and
the awful taste in my mouth from the
bitterness I felt toward the scam that
tried hard to take me.....I learned a lot
and fortunately have never given them a
dime....All of their postage at their, or I
should say, other poets expense...is the
only monetary exchange....

I wanted others to see this again...It is
so easy to feel your dream is being
made to come true and wanting to leap for
that pot of gold...
Ladycat
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8 posted 06-26-2002 12:39 AM       View Profile for Ladycat   Email Ladycat   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Ladycat's Home Page   View IP for Ladycat

I got this invitation the first time that I started posting on the old site and then they came to the resident poet's page and pick out one of my pieces from there and sent me a letter telling me that they wanted to use it and that I would have to BUY the book to see it.  Then I got the award notice letter over and over again.  I never took the invitation.  I never told them that they could use my poetry and I never got an award.  I was hoping that if I got awarded it would be before they start charging me for the book.  
I was rather insulted that they tryed to take advantage of my intelligence. They are the worse ripe off artists that I have ever met and I just wish that they would stop bothering me.  It is like they have never had a piece as good as mine or like they couldn't get anything better.  
They tryed really hard to make me feel special, but I feel more special right here at this site with my netpoet family that won't take advantage of me.

*more ranting and ranting*

Sorry about that.  I just get angry to hear about other people that had to deal with this company.  They are worthless and should stop trying to exploit good poets.  That is what makes people not want to write and share with others.  
I did though write a letter to the better business bureau in hopes that there is something that they can do about them.  
Giving good writers pipe dreams is horrible.

Thank you.
By the way, I'm a rather large cat type person. lol.. Send me and I will take care of them..

Love,
Ladycat


Live in my world just once and you'll find yourself enraptured.

[This message has been edited by Ladycat (06-26-2002 12:42 AM).]

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9 posted 06-27-2002 02:12 AM       View Profile for RosePetal   Email RosePetal   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for RosePetal

the very same thing happened to me also barry! They kept sending notices in the mail informing me that my poem was going to be published in a book but i went to my public library and no such book existed. they are scammers just trying to sucker us in to buying a 50.00 book
Magnus
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10 posted 06-27-2002 06:27 PM       View Profile for Magnus   Email Magnus   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Magnus

Joanna,

That is correct....they talk about this
very beautiful hardbound book that your
poem will be included in....and how
it will be seen by so many people...

BUT,  I seriously doubt that you will ever
find even ONE of their hardbound anthologies
in any public library or large bookstore
in any city of any country....

I once found the anthology on the internet,
(one that one of my poems was to be included
in) by going to their website and opening
up the anthology.....I looked at page after
page of poems that were a definite eye
opener.  I found so many that were very crude,  made little or no sense....were not
appealing at all...and that certainly
cheapened the artistic value of my own poem,
knowing that it was going to be included
with all of the others...that it was not
considered to be any better than so many of
the rest that were very poorly written and
crude...

And they offer to publish you,  IF you spring
for the right amount of cash....What a
crock.... Wouldn't that be great....spend
a couple hundred dollars just so you can
be published....by some agency that could
care less about the quality of your poetry??

I don't think so....And I want everyone to
realize that being published is not as simple
as counting to three...NOT if you want to
do it right and get the proper publicity
and viewing of your work...
Paul Wilson
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11 posted 07-18-2002 11:07 AM       View Profile for Paul Wilson   Email Paul Wilson   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Paul Wilson

Ditto. I have gotten the same junk from the same people. At first I thought they were honest till other people told me they had gotten the same offer as you & I.
I will never visit their site again, all they are worried about is selling books & making money.
Thanks for letting me blow off steam.
Paul
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12 posted 07-18-2002 03:51 PM       View Profile for Irie   Email Irie   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Irie

I've not had this happen, though, I don't venture out of PIP much.
These other sites scare me, because of what I have heard from others.
And this is a perfect example of that.
It's really too bad that they do this.
I am grateful for Passions, and the way it works!
I'm sorry this has happened to you Magnus, and to all the others ....

Maybe someone from this site needs a poke in the eye from Irie

~Sheri

"The things that come to those that wait may be the things
left by those who got there first"


 
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