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RosePetal
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0 posted 01-06-2002 12:33 AM       View Profile for RosePetal   Email RosePetal   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for RosePetal

I stumbled upon a poetry site that is the same exact as passions except their pages are grey instead of blue! They have an open forum just like we do and then forums for adult and critiquing. So I registered and posted a poem in the open forum.
Let me tell you, the people there were so very rude and jumped on my case just because they wanted my poem to be more in-depth. Then I replied a kind comment to someone else's poem only to be emailed by a moderator scolding me because she said that I MUST give a REASON why I liked the poem! She said "fluff" comments like "enjoyed or "this is a great poem" are not allowed. WHAT IS SHE KIDDIN?!?! Who is she to tell me what to say in my replies, that is a bit ridiculous. She told me that If I don't start giving people critiques then I should stop posting at that site! They expect you to critique poems in every single forum!
This moderator got on my last nerve because she talked down to me as if I were a child, so I simply e mailed her and told her "listen, I like to share my poetry and read other's poetry, I do not prefer to critique, especially in an open poetry forum. You site's rules are absurd and I won't be posting with you anymore, I am quite content at my current poetry home, and let me just say that your site is a copycat of my home at passions but it cannot hold a candle to it. As far as your tone you took with me, I dont appreciate it, I am a new member and rather then scold me you should have extended me a warm welcome and then after that remind me of the guidlines! Well, everyone that site is an immitation of passions and it cannot compare.
THIS is the BEST poetry home and I am sooo happy to be here. My loyalty lies with passions..(hugs to all) especially Ron for giving us the privilege to come together and express ourselves!
whew tht was a lot of typing, my fingers hurt LoL. Just wanted to tell all of you about this because it angered me, but now that its off my chest, i feel much better. AHHHHHH!

RP

[This message has been edited by RosePetal (01-06-2002 12:37 AM).]

Irish Rose
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1 posted 01-06-2002 01:04 AM       View Profile for Irish Rose   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Irish Rose

You go girl, tell them to kiss your...well never mind, you said it just fine!

Kathleen--
Neither genius, fame, nor love show the greatness of the soul.
Only kindness can do that. ~Jean Baptiste Henri Lacordaire~

Brad
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2 posted 01-06-2002 08:09 AM       View Profile for Brad   Email Brad   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Brad

What is the name of the site?
anonymousfemale
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3 posted 01-06-2002 09:46 AM       View Profile for anonymousfemale   Email anonymousfemale   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for anonymousfemale

Whoa, that is unbelievable! Places like that prove just how great Passions is.

If this is all the world has to offer, I want a refund on my life.

Sunshine
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4 posted 01-06-2002 10:42 AM       View Profile for Sunshine   Email Sunshine   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Sunshine's Home Page   View IP for Sunshine


I have also visited that site, RP, and believe me, I quickly clicked my red shoes and said "take me home!"

Believe me...and Dorothy...there's NO place like Passions!
serenity blaze
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5 posted 01-06-2002 01:59 PM       View Profile for serenity blaze   Email serenity blaze   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for serenity blaze

I'm with Brad--I'd like to know the name of the site. I don't think I would mind hard critque as long as the arguments are intelligent, and not simply infantile expression of aggression (with winks to Sharon, for our chat room experience, lol)
RosePetal
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6 posted 01-06-2002 02:37 PM       View Profile for RosePetal   Email RosePetal   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for RosePetal

well from what I saw, there wasnt much intelligence going on over there, just bickeing and knit-picking and arguments.
serenity blaze
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7 posted 01-06-2002 07:19 PM       View Profile for serenity blaze   Email serenity blaze   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for serenity blaze

Rose...thanks for the e mail...I'm really sorry someone hurt your feelings with such insensitivity. So I thought I'd share with you a "critique" I received in another forum.

"You obviously mistake poetry for that stuff that comes out of (your behind) in a fit of diarhea!"

I am simply curious. (and maybe ready for a good fight? lol) hugs and thanks!
RosePetal
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8 posted 01-06-2002 07:34 PM       View Profile for RosePetal   Email RosePetal   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for RosePetal

OH MY GOD, someone said that to you?!?! Geez, that is beyond critiquing, that is
R-U-D-E! I have read many of your poems and they are brilliant, this person must be senile. lol. (hugs)

[This message has been edited by RosePetal (01-06-2002 07:35 PM).]

Jonas
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9 posted 01-06-2002 08:23 PM       View Profile for Jonas   Email Jonas   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Jonas

Can you send me the link via e-mail?

[This message has been edited by Jonas (01-06-2002 08:23 PM).]

RosePetal
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10 posted 01-06-2002 09:48 PM       View Profile for RosePetal   Email RosePetal   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for RosePetal

anything for you Jonas! Check your mail
Brad
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11 posted 01-06-2002 10:16 PM       View Profile for Brad   Email Brad   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Brad

Whoah, guys, I've been there, they have a nice circular way of reading things. There's no point in trying to go there, no point in trying to fight back.

Let them be and let them let us be.

Honestly, you'll just frustrated and angry and start saying things just like they do until you get banned because you're saying them to them(and suddenly realize that you should have just stopped going because being banned makes you feel so much better ).

Go and read other sites, of course, but don't try to change them.

Just a warning,
Brad

PS Beware of fighting monsters lest you become one. It's easy to do.   
Jonas
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12 posted 01-06-2002 10:46 PM       View Profile for Jonas   Email Jonas   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Jonas

Now I remember that place. Nothing more than a group of psuedo intellectuals who thrive on conflict - calling it debate. The goal of every long standing member is to beat every new member into submission....then they convince the newcomers that they are their superiors and should be treated as such.
RosePetal
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13 posted 01-06-2002 11:22 PM       View Profile for RosePetal   Email RosePetal   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for RosePetal

Yeah and once they saw that I wasnt going to comply with their ridiculous rules, a moderator began deleteing all my posts without even sending me a notice. No loss to me, lol.
Brad
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14 posted 01-06-2002 11:41 PM       View Profile for Brad   Email Brad   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Brad

Jonas said:

Now I remember that place. Nothing more than a group of psuedo intellectuals who thrive on conflict - calling it debate.

--Hey, nothing wrong with being a psuedo-intellectual, nothing wrong with thriving on conflict.

The goal of every long standing member is to beat every new member into submission....

--that's the problem.


then they convince the newcomers that they are their superiors and should be treated as such.

--Yep, and then the newcomers turn on the new newcomers.

Amazing place when you think about it.

Brad
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15 posted 01-07-2002 12:16 AM       View Profile for Poet deVine   Email Poet deVine   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Poet deVine

One Moderator there berated a newbie because the newbie didn't read and critique 3 poems. The newbie countered that he was going to but as it was a forum, he thought he had time. The Moderator stated 'this is a workshop, not a forum'. My question - why doesn't it say 'workshop'?

I think for anyone who wants an INTENSE dissection of their work, by all means join the fray. But if you want a pat on the back for what you post, do not enter.

And if you go, please remember to respect their viewpoints as you would want them to respect ours here. Represent the best that is PiP!!!

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16 posted 01-07-2002 12:48 AM       View Profile for Midnitesun   Email Midnitesun   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Midnitesun

Wow, I hardly ever come to this part of the blue pages. I am utterly dismayed by what I just read. Poetry is from the heart, not just the mind, and once posted, belongs to whomever reads it, at any level of understanding and feeling, whether or not they choose to critique or reply. Sometimes  people just know what they like or dislike, and know or care nothing about format or form. Your experience with this other site just reenforces my feelings that I've found the only poetry home where I need to post. A funny thing, this reminds me of an experience in college. I had a professor who didn't like my interpretations of Asian lit in translation, particularly Po Chu I and Basho. Yes, I do have some background in literature. The professor said " You do not understand this poetry, your interpretations are immature and illogical."  Someone in class spoke up and said "No, dear professor  ****, it is you who do not understand, or feel the poetry."  I sat there almost frozen to my chair, as student after student spoke up and supported my interpretation of the poetry. That year, I had an A in every class except that one. It was the only year I would have had straight A's in college.  I will never forget the arrogance of some academics. The site you refer to must be filled with such mental midgets.
I am quite happy here. I have visited several other sites, and  have received email solicitations to post at no less than four other sites, from people who have read at Pips but never once posted a reply.  My time is too valuable to mess around. I see no point in posting elsewhere unless they offer me something I cannot get here. So far, no one has been able to offer me anything I want that Pips does not provide in abundance.
Wow, am I rambling? LOL. You got me going on this one!


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17 posted 01-07-2002 12:59 AM       View Profile for Bec   Email Bec   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Bec

I found the site you are referring to, and while I mean no disrespect to anyone, it's seems a little, maybe, kindergarten-ish? I found the "Outside - interpersonal friction resolution area", and it seems to me that poets and writers who have work "banished" to this area are receiving a public admonishment for not sticking to the guidelines of the forum, rather than being told via email, or having suspect comments/poetry edited or removed. I also think that the need for an "area" such as this should indicate to the moderators that there is something wrong.

I completely understand and accept that there are poets and writers who welcome criticism and critiques, but I think there is a limit.

As I said, I mean no harm or disrespect or nastiness. If you are offended in any way, I'm very sorry.

Bec

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-Winnie-the-Pooh

RosePetal
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18 posted 01-07-2002 01:13 AM       View Profile for RosePetal   Email RosePetal   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for RosePetal

Bec, you probably saw my name under that banned section lol..Just because I spoke my mind, (I did it firm but fairly) a mod deleted most os my posts. oh well, i wont lose sleep over it..im very very happy here with all of you.

Yeah and the forum i posted in said General poetry, it didnt specify that it was a workshop at all..they seem to make the rules as they go along
Allan Riverwood
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19 posted 01-07-2002 09:00 AM       View Profile for Allan Riverwood   Email Allan Riverwood   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Allan Riverwood

I don't know, Rosepetal... why get so worked up about it, really?  They've got their way of doing things, and you obviously don't comply with it.

If you don't fit their reply policy, and don't have any desire to conform, simply don't go there.  It's that easy.

There's really no need to condemn them, or act like they're any threat to you.
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20 posted 01-07-2002 09:31 AM       View Profile for serenity blaze   Email serenity blaze   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for serenity blaze

"PS Beware of fighting monsters lest you become one. It's easy to do.   "

Brad, I would have that tattoed on the insides of my eyelids if I could. Gotta love it!
RosePetal
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21 posted 01-07-2002 01:41 PM       View Profile for RosePetal   Email RosePetal   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for RosePetal

Allan, if you would have someone speak to you the way i was spoken to by a mod there then you would feel the same way.
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22 posted 01-07-2002 04:17 PM       View Profile for serenity blaze   Email serenity blaze   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for serenity blaze

Well it DOES upset you. But...after reading that little tidbit of a reply that I shared with you? I just made up my mind to write ANYWAY. What the hell do they know? Yanno?
RosePetal
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23 posted 01-07-2002 05:46 PM       View Profile for RosePetal   Email RosePetal   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for RosePetal

yeah, hehe..im still going to write, but I wont post it there. : )
Titia Geertman
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24 posted 01-07-2002 07:00 PM       View Profile for Titia Geertman   Email Titia Geertman   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Titia Geertman's Home Page   View IP for Titia Geertman

Now I'm real curious, wanna see this site too, so please can anyone send an URL to me????

Titia

A rose is a rose is a rose...I guess...
Want to use the pics on my website? Just send me a mail and I'll give you the link.

 
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