Okay... there's a lot here.
I think your words of encouragement are great, and I wholeheartedly agree with most of them. A lot of suicidal people do not. I guess the advice (I use that term loosely) I would give/have given in the situation is that one can always kill themselves tomorrow.... but if you kill yourself today, you can't live tomorrow, you can't change your mind as an afterthought. To me, that has always seemed like the best argument against suicide... because nobody can argue with it. That's absolute truth, no room for interpretation, no way to argue... and sometimes I think that's what a person needs.
I'm not trying to turn this into a debate.... but it is a discussion on how to handle suicide, and suicidal people... and there were some things I found troubling in your post.
'A suicidal mind is one that non-professionals, particularly vantaged in a two-dimensional cyber world, cannot properly diagnose or attempt to heal.'
I understand that I am coming from a completely opinionated point of view.... and the above is very valid... but it's something I can't agree with. While I entirely agree with the site's policies (simply because it is a poetry site and not a therapy site) I'm not of the diagnostic boat. I guess what I mean is... since I'm not being very clear right now, is that there is no diagnosis of the 'suicidal mind' and how is must be 'healed'. Every person is unique... and just because a person has contemplated or tried suicide doesn't make them inherently different than someone who hasn't- just that their perceptions and opinions about life are different. They are not beyond understanding... and the fact that 'normal' people are too afraid to talk to them and they are left to the 'professionals' can be a very alienating feeling.... the best thing I think you can do for someone who is suicidal is to treat them like people, not projects or breakable ornaments, and talk to them with logic. And if that happens to be through a computer, so be it.... if it can help someone, why not? And if it doesn't, you know you at least treated them like a human.
'Suicide just isn't family fare. '
Once again, I agree with the policy... children (or anyone in general) should not be subjected to the glorification of suicide unless they so choose, and if they feel that the content at this site will not contain that type of material, then they should be 'safe' from it.
But saying that suicide isn't family fare is very wrong.... every adolescent that attempts suicide (and there are a LOT... suicide is the third biggest killer amongst teens... and those are just the 'successful' attempts) every parent or family member that kills themselves makes it a family fare. Suicide needs to be talked about... because kids that are too young to even realize the significance of what they are doing are dying everyday because nobody bothered to tell them the significance, or share that it does get better. No... glorification isn't the key... conversation is. No, that's not this (or any) website's job... it's the parents.... but there are a lot of parents that suck at their jobs... and someone's got to pick up the slack. Once again, is it anyone's responsibility? No, not unless they choose to take it.... but hopefully more people will begin taking that responsibility on....
I don't necessarily think that people who have attempted suicide are always ashamed... I also think that some people can still rationalize the reasons they wanted to take their own life, it's just that either the problem has passed, or they realize that it's not the right way out. I don't know... it's just that I know a lot of people who have tried or wanted to try killing themselves and nobody's really all that ashamed of it... I completely understand where you are coming from with that idea... but just out of curiosity, do you personally feel that it's something to be ashamed of, or just think that formerly suicidal people still do? If so, do you think that 'recovered' suicide attempts still don't see things clearly?
To all: As far as professional help goes, that only works when a person really wants the help. I'm sorry, but that's the truth. You can't just say to a suicidal person that they are sick and need professional help (translation: pills). Suicide is not a disease, it is a symptom of something very, very wrong in a person's life or perceptions and no professional can medicate that away. Yeah, I know, that's not how it's supposed to work, meds and therapy are supposed interact with each other in a comprehensive therepeutic program... but in most cases it's just a bunch of doctors and therapists ping-ponging you back and forth to see which 'cocktail' 'works' and which anger management get to know yourself better workbooks help you work out your feelings best until you're not even you anymore. And I know that a lot of people are going to disagree with this, and I would never think differently of somebody for taking prescription mood altering drugs, but in my own life, I would very honestly rather be crazy and suicidal than prodded into an induced contentment.
Okay. Rant over.
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