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beowulf_26
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0 posted 09-13-99 11:00 PM       View Profile for beowulf_26   Email beowulf_26   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for beowulf_26

I look at all the poetry in Passions and I feel in awe, overwhelmed, inadequate and frustrated all at the same time. When I write my poetry I try to put my deepest emotions into if. I guess I'm frustrated due to a lack of response. It's more than that though.

Does anybody have any tips (I hate that word) about improving my skills? I so desperatly want to write as eloquently as so many do, especially many of the moderators. Responses will be greatly appreceated.
Poet deVine
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1 posted 09-14-99 12:46 AM       View Profile for Poet deVine   Email Poet deVine   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Poet deVine

Want to know a secret? I toss a lot of my stuff out! I don't think it's good enough for the forum. I spend lots of time usually on a poem..writing..reading it aloud to myself...rewriting...have some 'aids'.. a dictionary..thesaurus..rhyming dictionary... and I usually put it down for a day, pick it up and read it again with a fresh eye.

As to style, format, meter, rhythm, check out some of the Q&A questions....or go to the Critical Analysis forum...there is always someone willing to help.

Pick a poet whose work you admire...send that poet an e-mail (do you know how to check their profile?). Ask.......you'd be surprised! Everyone here is happy to lend a hand. We were all 'newbies' at one time!

If I can ever help, please let me know!

poetdevine@yahoo.com
IsabelleSkye
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2 posted 09-14-99 11:58 AM       View Profile for IsabelleSkye   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for IsabelleSkye

Never ever give up. Just keep trying, keep posting, keep throwing your poems out there. And like PDV says, pick a poet whom you admire and get to know them, and their style. I had this wonderful friend, Red Letter whom from the minute I saw her poetry I was touched. Little did I know our styles were very similar. Needless to say being around her is very beneficial to my poetry. I also read alot of the old greats, to get inspiration and to get the feel of how poetry should flow. *shrug* One thing Red said to me once......"Don't force your poetry, BLEED it!" You said you put your deepest emotions in your poems, well grab a thesaurus for word variety and ooze a poem from your very soul. You may think it sucks (I always hate my poems, to be honest I have about 4 or 5 I really like..the rest are just words on paper LOL) but your poem could touch someone's heart. And isn't that what it's all about?
I.Skye

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Every man has in himself a continent of undiscovered character. Happy is he who acts Columbus to his own soul.......J. Stevens
Christopher
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3 posted 09-15-99 02:38 AM       View Profile for Christopher   Email Christopher   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Christopher

I agree with the above, (my thesaurus being my best friend and all,) and add that above all, write from your heart. Write what's important to you, write who you are. With that, you will put across the "Passion" (apt words isn't it?) and almost always that will make up for any lack of style you feel. It goes back to the question of what poetry really is. And in my opinion, it's from the heart. It doesn't matter if you really believe in what you're writing, it's whether or not it brings out strong emotions in you.

And I know well the feeling you have, there's been more than once that I've felt like a loner stranded at the edge of a vast ocean of talent.

Above all, never give up!
Nan
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4 posted 09-15-99 09:10 AM       View Profile for Nan   Email Nan   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Nan's Home Page   View IP for Nan

Hey Beowulf - You just acquired "member" status - You're not a newbie any more - Congratulations..
We're all happy to help - and as silly as it is, the more your name is seen on the boards, (in other words - the more you comment to others) the more response you will get - It just seems to work that way....
We're here for you any time you need us...
Aquarius
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since 09-20-1999
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5 posted 09-20-1999 01:24 PM       View Profile for Aquarius   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Aquarius

YES!!! You keep posting!!! I used to post at another group and it seemed like all they wanted to do was cut everybody's work up. Hardly lending any encouragement at all. More insults than help. It brought me to tears cuz they were so harsh with their comments. And you know what's funny? The poems that others wrote, that were all cut up, were the ones that touched ME. The ones that I enjoyed reading. Not everyone writes the same or with such expanded vocabulary, so just keep writing no matter what. Little things about your style and way of thinking will mature as you write. I still use cliches and that was one of the things that NOBODY seemed to like at the other group I was at. BUT, some people DID like the poems I read. This kept me going.
Brad
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Jejudo, South Korea


6 posted 09-20-1999 08:32 PM       View Profile for Brad   Email Brad   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Brad

Beowulf 26 (which might me a great title for a poem: Beowulf 26 Grendel ?),

I did comment on your poem at Critical Analysis but received no response (What's up with that?).

I'm going to take a slightly different path than those who have written before me, writing your emotions and what interests you is only, only the first step. The second step is read, read, read. Find out what you like to read and think about what it is that you like. Then, write, write, write. Then, rewrite, rewrite, rewrite. Then, read again.
Actually, this isn't chronological; this should all be done at the same time (but that reads kind of wierd, doesn't it?).

I also believe that discussion creates improvement; talk about poems. No, not compliments or insults but an actual engagement with each poem. At most sights I've perused I've seen a fear of actually telling people what you liked and disliked in a poem. It's so much easier to compliment or to insult than to work with a poem in detail. Time is always a problem of course but even a little engagement can go a long way.

Acquarius, there are reasons that cliches don't work in poems. Do you want to talk about it?

Again, emotion and feeling are only the first step in my opinion.

Brad
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