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synthetic
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since 2006-06-10
Posts 70
ontario, canada

0 posted 2006-06-10 01:58 PM


ash to ash
dust to dust
you're my past
i'm frust
hated by you
i've lost love
given it to you
received from above
but i'm a liar
don't take my word
i spit fire
don't take my hurt
chastize me
for anothers transgressions
burn me
just another lesson
we learn
i yearn
you burn
and you won't let me put it out

i'm done telling you
my love ain't good
i'll make my heart swallow you
until you've stood
down enough in the sun
need somewhere to rest
when you're too tired to run
i'll be your resting breast
you'll hear it in my chest
but not from my lips
i'll be your best
you've been my kiss


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cynicsRus
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since 2003-06-06
Posts 591
So Cal So Cool!
1 posted 2006-06-11 12:17 PM


Synthetic,
I’m not really sure why I looked at this again. I guess I didn't feel it was so bad that it deserves to get buried by more banal offerings.
First of all, the imagery is not quite as simplistic as one might think, (as I did), upon first reading this—it’s not bad. I’d rather see you put this in a different format with longer lines so that the rhymes you have, fall somewhat randomly. As you have them now, they are forced anyway. Of course, you’ll then have to take it to the next level, syntactically. For your poem is a good example of why it is important when writing, to use clear punctuation—it can only help.
Also: Don’t make up words, or abbreviate words in poetry—use ‘frustrated,’ please. Don’t bother rhyming ‘love’, there are very few words that work, and they’ve all been done a gazillion times, to the quadzillionth power. Eliminate that line altogether. Changing 'it', to 'you' in the last line of this stanza would create a bit of a play on words, but it's only a suggestion.

As for the second stanza: Down through the 7th line the premise is adequate.
But the rhymes, ‘resting breast’ and ‘chest’? If no one else will say it, I will: They are crap. ‘Lips’ and ‘kiss’ is not much better.
Line 7 would be a good way to end.

Personally, I detest having my work rewritten by critics, so I will rarely rewrite anyone else’s’, unless I feel it will clarify my points. So, I’ll leave but a sample of what I’m trying to say. Hopefully it will make my criticism more clear. You need to finish it your way though, so that the poem has your heart.


ash to ash
dust to dust you're my past,
i'm frustrated; hated by you i've lost
love given to you i'm a liar, don't take
my word for i spit fire—I’ll leave you hurt
chastize me for anothers transgressions
burn me--another lesson we learn,
i yearn, you burn and you won't
let me put you out


i'm done telling you my love ain't good
i'll make my heart swallow you
until you've stood down enough
in the sun need somewhere to rest
when you're too tired to run


If you must carp: Carpe diem!
ICSoria
My poetry forum.

[This message has been edited by cynicsRus (06-11-2006 12:48 PM).]

Essorant
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since 2002-08-10
Posts 4769
Regina, Saskatchewan; Canada
2 posted 2006-06-12 11:50 AM



I think this needs more care about the basic need  of good grammar and punctuation in language.  Let your sentences encompass more than just one or two shortest lines at a time.  And draw the reader by carefully dealing with a given point, rather than trying to make another point right away.  In my opinion, it is worth little to just express an attitude.  Anyone can do that.  But poetry needs structure and grace.  Work on meeting the basic needs and practicle parts of speech first.  Once you have that foundation, the luxuries of rhyme and special expression shall be afforded much better.


Skippyrick
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since 2006-05-16
Posts 150
Rohnert Park
3 posted 2006-06-12 10:36 PM


Hi:

I agree with the other post. just a few things.  I think one should alway capitalize I.  With that said on to something elts.  Pucuation in poetry is not always nessasarry neather is rhyme. Try to stay away from the cliché ash to ash dust to  dust.


you're my past
my frustratiion
i've lost it
but i'm a liar
don't take my word
take my hurt
chastize me
burn me
is this another lesson
we learn
i yearn to know why
you burn
why you won't let me
put it out
i'm done telling you
is my love not good
my heart could swallow you
you've stood
down enough in the sun
needing somewhere to rest
when you're too tired to run
i'll be there
you'll hear it in my chest
not from my lips
i'll be your best
you will alway remember
my kiss

thanks for posting
rick

cynicsRus
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since 2003-06-06
Posts 591
So Cal So Cool!
4 posted 2006-06-13 09:51 AM


quote:
Pucuation in poetry is not always nessasarry neather is rhyme.

However, proper spelling always is.

Essorant
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since 2002-08-10
Posts 4769
Regina, Saskatchewan; Canada
5 posted 2006-06-13 11:07 AM


Punctuation is help to do better.
If you don't help your writing it shall be worse.
Seldom are the poems that show the care to have punctuation the ones with the harshest problems.  But it is those that don't have punctuation that are often most in distress.  One recklessness often leads to another.


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