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PoetryIsLife 
since 2001-10-27
Posts 1763...in my boxers... 
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I was discussing this with a friend, and we thing it deserves some consideration. But, perhaps it doesn't.  In open, it seems there is a lot of varried types and genres, and the mishmash affect creates a bit of havoc. A good love poem drops down to page five in open, or a good 'anger' poem does the same. Having so many types in one is nice, but also uncomfortable. If you read only love poems, do you discriminate against the anger ones? Or what if simply need to read a good love poem, and can't find it in the pot? What I am trying to get at is... why not split open into a few lesser forums, perhaps love, perhaps future minded, perhaps bitter/angry, maybe add a sad. I know it would be a lot on our server, Ron, but maybe just split off at least a love forum? I've been desiring one for a while now. ~ Titus  "My body is merely the canvas of my soul." |
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RosePetal
since 2001-08-26
Posts 2985South Florida |
I can totally see where you're coming from Titus. I think it would be great to have a special forum set aside for love poems! I am in the mood to read love poems often and it would be great to just be a click away and have a page full of them lined up with nothing else mixed in. If the anger forum and love forum were added, I know it would mean that we need more mods to moderate and I'd be happy to do so. |
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Allan Riverwood
since 2001-01-04
Posts 3502Winnipeg |
That would make the place boring. It would also encourage people who frequent particular forums not to explore other styles of poetry. I don't like the idea. |
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PoetryIsLife
since 2001-10-27
Posts 1763...in my boxers... |
It would give people the ability to choose, Allan, not have it forced on them. What if a person enjoys 'Love' poetry only. Why should that person have to sift through all the mishmash to get to what he wants, merely because you, or others, think he should do it your way? The beauty of this place is it's many things for many people. We all know love is a key motivator for poetry. I simply feel we should recognize that and make room for change.  ~ Titus "My body is merely the canvas of my soul." |
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Janet Marie Member Laureate
since 2000-01-22
Posts 18554 |
How about a compromise that wouldnt involve creating more forums to read in an what many feel is an already too busy site that we often cant keep up in (which is one reason why the poems you speak of are getting buried)... maybe instead of making more forums, which means more server work, more posts to moderate and reply to ... how about the poems posted in Open have some kind of denotation or icon or simply us saying (a love poem) in the title line? Then those wishing to seek them out can. But some will not like the idea of their poetry being categorized... I.E. (an "angry" poem) Food for thought peace and poetry. jm [This message has been edited by Janet Marie (03-23-2002 04:32 PM).] |
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nakdthoughts Member Laureate
since 2000-10-29
Posts 19200Between the Lines |
other sites break up into categories...I never liked it that much.. for one thing what one writes about and calls love, may include anger or be considered sad by another's interpretation...there is sadness and happiness in love poems..so how do you discriminate which is which...I enjoy the open for the way it is..sad can be in dark if one goes there... most of them are sad... It's hard enough to keep up with Open and one or two other forums, to add more will make it even more time consuming...Titles usually give you a clue as to what the poem is to be about...and I agree that if you separate the poems then someone will miss the opportunity to read a wonderfully written poem that they may have not expected to enjoy. I read through most all...I don't respond to all but I try to read them all because you never know which poems will touch you and make your day. M Oh and you can use search to post the word love or anger or sad in it to get poems that may be of your liking for that day...I have tried it when I wanted a particular subject or even looking up one of mine I forgot the title to. *s |
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Mistletoe Angel
since 2000-12-17
Posts 32816Portland, Oregon |
 (smiles) I love Janet Marie's suggestion; I feel if we divide the Open board up, it will disunify much of the poetry community, but I think if we can set icons on the ide of the poems, or color-code the poem titles or something in particular, it will help poets who love a particular genre find the poems they want to read and make their experience more enjoyable! I also think we can do something like on "Today's Topics", we are able to seperate the listings for each genre of poetry by the icons in Open to make it very easy for love poets to find love poetry or ones who like darkness to find that genre, etc.  Love, Noah Eaton |
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PoetryIsLife
since 2001-10-27
Posts 1763...in my boxers... |
What of perhaps this idea.... when posting a new poem, have a few general boxes, such as "Love" "Sad" et all. So that Open remains Open, but one could search for poems under such genres. Perhaps? ~ Titus "My body is merely the canvas of my soul." |
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rosepetals25
since 2000-05-31
Posts 3076PA |
I agree with Janet. Having a little heart icon by the person poem will give the poet the choice whether or not to label the poem. It will also make it easier to find what you are looking for, if you are searching for love poems. Good idea Janet  Tara |
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Phaedrus Member
since 2002-01-26
Posts 180 |
If the icon idea is implemented what happens if you write a love poem and don’t pick the relevant icon? Does the poem get a default ‘open’ icon? If so isn’t there a chance that someone who likes love poems will miss one that hasn’t been categorised correctly. Then we get into the problem of re-categorising poems that have been categorised incorrectly, would this be down to the moderators or would you just put up with a mishmash of poems - some love some not? If it’s the former it could cause a lot of work, if it’s the later then the object of the exercise would be missed. Just playing devils advocate. Thanks for the chance to read and reply |
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suthern
since 1999-07-29
Posts 20723Louisiana |
I don't post that many poems... but honestly doubt I'd post any if I had to categorize them... and if I, as the author, can't decide their category... how could anyone else? I've visited sites that have everything neatly categorized... and I'm sure that's more convenient for those who want to limit their reading. But I don't even like places that separate free verse and rhyme... I like variety. *S* When I think of the wonderful poems I would have missed if I'd gotten exactly what I expected when I opened the poem, I can only hope that PIP doesn't change. |
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Marge Tindal
since 1999-11-06
Posts 42384Florida's Foreverly Shores |
When I began at Passions In Poetry, eons (or is that icons (?) ago ... the one constant that I could depend on was 'chancing' upon a variety of poetry that wasn't 'categorized'.Oh my ! .... how my enjoyment has been enhanced by finding such a VARIETY of styles, forms and subjects by merely clicking on any poem in the Open Aisle ! I believe that interpretation is the key to my enjoyment of poetry ... I would really hate to miss a good poem because someone 'labeled' it and that wasn't on my menu for the day~ Just my little $1.98 worth~ *Hugs* ~*Marge*~ ~*The pen of the poet never runs out of ink, as long as we breathe.*~ |
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Sunshine
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Member Empyrean
since 1999-06-25
Posts 63354Listening to every heart |
...LOL at Marge...with two cents change!  [This message has been edited by Sunshine (03-25-2002 12:15 PM).] |
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PoetryIsLife
since 2001-10-27
Posts 1763...in my boxers... |
I love the variety, and multiple styles and personalities as well...but why should we force ourselves onto others? Why not let them choose to read various styles or merely what they are looking for? ~ Titus "My body is merely the canvas of my soul." |
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nakdthoughts Member Laureate
since 2000-10-29
Posts 19200Between the Lines |
but why should we force ourselves onto others I know you don't mean to say this do you? How is one forced to read anything anyway...you click on what titles you wish and the authors..and skip those you don't feel would be to your liking, but no one is forced to do anything on here.. Anyway, you can tell by the first line or so what the poem will be about.... Maybe it's an age thing... and of the many experiences ... and that many have been in love, married, have children and losses, etc.. but it would be a loss to my reading eyes to miss the touch of anothers words because I had to switch forums constantly, to be able to read of those poets I enjoy. I don't even think I would like icons...I agree with Marge..there is much beauty behind these titles and categorizing them more than they already are...will make this site lose some of what has made it so popular. |
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PoetryIsLife
since 2001-10-27
Posts 1763...in my boxers... |
"I know you don't mean to say this do you? How is one forced to read anything anyway...you click on what titles you wish and the authors..and skip those you don't feel would be to your liking, but no one is forced to do anything on here.." In a way, yes, I did mean to say that. What I feel we are forcing on others is to have to sift through every poem to find a genre they are looking for. If we organized the poetry.... even simply splitting off a "Love" section, this would allow our users to choose the genre they want. Titles or a few lines don't allow me to see what a poem is.... to get a real feel for where a poet is going I have to read the entire thing. And if I am in the mood for a 'dark' poem, I go to dark. If I am in the mood for a 'love' poem, I go to open, hoping to find one by sifting through that which I'm not interested in, at the moment. Later, yes I'll hopefully read it. But to have to sift is somewhat of a discourager. Does this make sense? I merely think we should let people decide for themselves what they wish to read, and make it easiest for them. Perhaps I am wrong. I see and apprecaite the beauty of Open. I just think a little organizing would benifit pip and it's users. ~ Titus "My body is merely the canvas of my soul." |
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Marge Tindal
since 1999-11-06
Posts 42384Florida's Foreverly Shores |
Titus~ quote: AND a very nice comment, I must say~ Let's see -  'How do I love thee, let me count the ways." Love Poetry - (sub-categories) 1. Man for woman 2. Woman for man 3. Mother for daughter 4. Mother for son 5. Father for daughter 6. Father for son 7. Woman for Lemon Meringue Pie 8. Women for CHOCOLATE 9. Grandmother's for grandchildren 10. Man for fishing 11. Man for hunting 12. Women for fishing 13. Women for hunting 14. Sensual love (men and women) 15. Sensual love (men and men) 16. Sensual love (women and women) 17. Young love 18. Seasoned love 19. Romance while courting 19. Romance after marriage 20. Romance in the morning 21. Romance in the afternoon 22. Romance in the evening 23. All night long ! 24. Puppy love 24. Love of puppies ! 25. I love my truck ! 26. I love my Harley ! (Kawasaki - Gold Wing) 27. Love POETRY ... oh, boy do I ! Anyone care to add some more ? I'm all loved out~ Tee-Hee ... and BEFORE anyone gets their little Fruit of the Looms twisted ... I'm having a little p-funnerie~ *HUGS* n' *WINKS* n' *Whatcha Thinks* ~*Marge*~ OH .... has anyone tried this link ? It has poetry in categories ! http://netpoets.com/ Love Poetry Poems on Cyber Romance Poems about Friends & Lovers Poems about Teen Love Love Poetry For Two Poems about Lost Romance Sad Poetry Poems About Death Poems On Depression Sad Poems About Society Poems about Lost Romance Friendship Poetry Poems about Lost Friends Poems about Cyber Friendship Poems about Teen Friendship Poems about Friends & Lovers Poems on Life Attack on America Inspirational Poems Poems about Family Poems about Life in Society Poems on Life as a Teen Poetry Buffet Christian Poetry Humorous Poetry Poems that Tell a Story Poems on Beauty Special Occassion & Holiday Poetry Short Fiction Poetry About Poetry Classical Poetry Elizabeth Barret Browning Emily Dickinson Henry Wadsworth Longfellow Edgar Allan Poe William Shakespeare Many, many more... pipTalk Poetry Forums Teen Poetry Dark Passions Spiritual Journeys Critical Analysis Passions in Prose Poetry Workshop Holiday Cheer Lots, lots more... ~*The pen of the poet never runs out of ink, as long as we breathe.*~ |
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Larry C
since 2001-09-10
Posts 10286United States |
Hey...I have an idea, let's just post our poems in an open forum. Sorry... I couldn't resist. ROTFL |
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Android 17
since 2001-07-21
Posts 664Winnipeg |
Hmmm...I agree with Allan---but on a more greater scale. Even us having "Teen Poetry"---it shouldn't matter. A poet, is a poet, is a poet, is a poet! I mean...it doesn't matter if you're a teen or not---and if you get caught in the vibe of going to Teen Poetry all the time, then you're not going to check out the rest of PiP either! I can see why Ron made it like this---but still. It doesn't encourage very much...much---'poetic commerce' y'know what I'm saying? Love, Hate, Fear, Happiness---it shouldn't matter...how are we expected to enjoy PiP if there isn't any mixed variety? Others are too in love with the sound of their own voice to speak the truth... |
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Krawdad Member Elite
since 2001-01-03
Posts 2597 |
PIP has several categories already including one open, or generalized, category. Isn't that the best of both worlds? Ok, add a category or two if you must, but keep one open. I may write to a form but not to a category and I don't care to. In fact, I prefer to post in Open so that I'm not confined to a category. The only problem I see is that Open is too large and moves too fast. Too darn many people writing!!! Some of you stop it!!! Kraw' "As soon as the generals and the politicos can predict the motions of your mind, lose it." Wendell Berry |
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Poet deVine
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Member Seraphic
since 1999-05-26
Posts 22612Hurricane Alley |
Krawdad, some of us have to stop it because the muse is being stubborn!! |
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